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templogin
12-07-11, 10:26 PM
I have always fancied a Yard-o-Led pencil, but as described by one pencil blog, yes there are such things for us saddos, the prices are stratospheric. *I was disappointed to have missed one sold so cheaply on here, but hey-ho, I really wanted a silver one.

electronicBay was the answer to my problems after I realised that I still didn't want to pay the stratospheric prices, especially as we don't have a dealer up here in Shetland, so I couldn't take one in hand for a test drive.

I found what was described as a 1964 silver, barley patterned YoL Diplomat with an unengraved escutcheon, unused by its owner. *Had been a gift for a guy, part of a choir, who had sung a solo piece. *It made me think about the differences between my time working in the private sector. *A time of free health insurance with BUPA, christmas bonuses, cash sales bonuses, Argos vouchers as sales bonuses, xmas functions with free food and free bar, summer balls with free food and free bar, a non-contributory pension, overtime, company car and a good salary. *Now I work in the public sector where I get paid less and get a pension, which is supposed to be generous. I am surprised that I ever left the private sector!

I rarely believe eBay descriptions and there was little time to ask questions before the auction ended. *The starting price was £50 and there were no bids. *I used snip.pl to put in a bid for me in the dying seconds. *I needn't have worried as no-one else bid on it.

The seller was really nice to chat to by email, telling me that she was in Glasgow and would ship it the next morning. *The pencil turned up today in its original box, the instructions still in it. *The exterior of the box in a smart condition. *The inside looking stained. *They always do according to what I can glean from the interwebnet. *Sure enough the pencil was immaculate, if, unsurprisingly, tarnished. *I checked the lead store and it was full of the standard 3" replacement leads. *I propelled the lead from the pencil. *The mechanism work perfectly. *I was surprised to see that the lead was still square at the end. *They really had never written with this pencil.

The YoL Diplomat is a small pencil, so it might not suit those of you with large hands, but it has surpring heft for its size. *The assay mark is too small for my feeble eyesight, but I have no reason to doubt what the seller has said. *I think that I would have preferred the plain finish as I like the understated look in items, but I can't really complain about this and I suppose that it adds a level of tactility that the plain would not have.

I have put off buying a YoL for many years, although I was really more interested in a fountain pen. *I think that this has been a good purchase, however I wouldn't pay the new price for one. *If you can pick up a good secondhand example it will feel like a sweeter deal.

mojofilter
13-07-11, 01:34 AM
Nice wan, being a habitual pencil over pen man, I would quite like one too, but I could get 55 faber 9000's for that....

:D

Noddy
13-07-11, 01:49 AM
Caran D'Ache, man :)

templogin
13-07-11, 01:54 AM
I think that my best wood cased pencils are Tombow Mono 100s. Around £20 a pack if memory serves or 40% of a YoL!

Caran D'Ache make better pens/pencils than they make ink bottles. The latter are a lovely design. The challenge is getting the ink out of them! I have a number of CD'As on my wish list.

mojofilter
13-07-11, 02:04 AM
Caran D'Ache, man :)

Lol, never tried them! :lol:

In my opinion, there is no appreciable difference in the quality of the 9000's, Tombows or Staedtler Lumographs.

I have pretty much ditched everything in favour of a perfect pencil with a quality wooden refill.

Ian Atkinson
13-07-11, 08:20 AM
I saw a silver yard-o-led pencil for sale at the antiques fair on a silver stall, it was really nice! I think it was £60, I nearly bought it but I just couldn't quite bring myself to pay £60 for a pencil even if it was silver!

Nokin
13-07-11, 10:47 AM
I actually bought a new 'Retro' YOL pencil about five years ago and it's a really good writing instrument. It will last a lifetime, there's a large variety of lead types and thicknesses to suit most people (i prefer the 1mm leads myself), and it's a pleasure to write with. Expensive - yes, but a real quality product.

http://i963.photobucket.com/albums/ae114/NokinPhoto/retro_pencil.jpg

templogin
13-07-11, 07:48 PM
I think that pencils might be my new interest. I have got a few, but the only notable ones are (wood cased) Tombow Mono 100s, FC 9000s, Staedtler Lumographs, FC Perfect Pencil (leadholder) Staedtler 780, (propelling) Croquis, Uni Kuru-Toga, YoL. Sorry, I have just realised that reading lists gets old quick!

There isn't a huge list as far as a normal collector would be concerned, but these were not picked up to collect. They have mainly just been bought whilst I was buying something more important.

As far as costs are concerned, its a bit like knives. I had decided that UKPKs were ridiculously expensive and that I would never spend that much on a knife. I now have a UKPK, Urban and Military and many others.

mojofilter
14-07-11, 02:01 PM
You need some Fixpencils. ;)

http://www.cultpens.com/acatalog/Caran_dAche_Fixpencil_22.html

gregs656
14-07-11, 02:29 PM
I have a YoL and think it's fantastic. Mine is a rolled gold one, and a reasonably old one at that - with the clip that is held in place by the mechanism rather than riveted on. I prefer that, although I would rather have it in silver, still the condition is very good so it's swings and roundabouts really.

Enjoy your new pencil, and keep an eye out in the classifieds because I do come across them every now and again and I know they are popular.

mojofilter
14-07-11, 03:04 PM
I have a YoL and think it's fantastic. Mine is a rolled gold one, and a reasonably old one at that - with the clip that is held in place by the mechanism rather than riveted on. I prefer that, although I would rather have it in silver, still the condition is very good so it's swings and roundabouts really.

Enjoy your new pencil, and keep an eye out in the classifieds because I do come across them every now and again and I know they are popular.

Is there anything that can go wrong with them, most of the ones on ebay are described as having no lead, so you dunno if they work or not?

I really need one, now! :D

benp1
14-07-11, 03:10 PM
I had a nice mechanical pencil that I lost a while back. To be honest I carried it a lot but didn't use it much. I love writing with fountain pens though

gregs656
14-07-11, 05:16 PM
Is there anything that can go wrong with them, most of the ones on ebay are described as having no lead, so you dunno if they work or not?

I really need one, now! :D

Things can certainly go wrong with them, I think. I've seen ones where the lead holder is so managed and beat up they are no good to any one, however with patience that kind of damage can usually be undone. Another potential area of concern is the winding nut, which is kind of crucial and I guess could be easily lost - although I have never come across this it would not be obvious in photos because they are covered by the cap. The thread that nut runs on could also be destroyed by some one who was a bit cack handed.

Really, though, they're a pretty safe bet.

I keep an eye out for them so I will keep you in mind if I see one.

mojofilter
14-07-11, 05:36 PM
Thank you! :)

nickh
14-07-11, 08:50 PM
Hmm, not really beeen sure before, but now................Yup, I need one.

templogin
15-07-11, 02:56 PM
Just picked up another one for £35 inc postage on eBay. Used. Should arrive tomorrow.

gregs656
19-07-11, 12:26 PM
I have a sterling silver yard-o-lette sitting in front of me. Now this in an interesting bit of kit. About 2/3s of the size of normal, to make them more portable an easier to carry I suppose. I actually really like it.

templogin
19-07-11, 04:48 PM
Designed as a lady's (wimmins') pen, but these days, when we seem to see a lot of advantage in shrunk down things, they could become newly fashionable; a posh Pico pen if you will. Marvellous!

gregs656
19-07-11, 05:40 PM
I'm not sure they were, actually. From what I can gather, the smaller pencil was designed with the intention of it just being easier to pocket. They did, however, have ones with a ring top (for women) and also one with just a normal clip, for a shirt pocket, which is the type I've got. It is basically the same length as a fisher bullet space pen. Very neat size.

I agreed with my self I would only keep one propelling pencil, and I'm not sure if I prefer this to my normal sized one or not yet.