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TheViking
18-12-05, 03:47 PM
Hello everyone. I'm going to New Zealand next year in september (traveling alone down there :| meeting parents later)

Can I carry my Vic Outrider SAK down there and if not, can I carry a 7 cm. huntsman? The outrider is a locking, 9 cm blade.

Merry christmas :D
Danzo
18-12-05, 08:29 PM
Hi Andy

It's pretty similiar to UK law, but with more understanding in country areas, which is most of NZ! Maybe don't carry the Outrider in bigger towns. The Huntsman should be fine. Most sports stores in NZ sell a selection of both fixed blades and folders.

:D

I'm sure Zackerty will provide full details when he is back from his holiday.

Danzo
TheViking
19-12-05, 05:19 PM
Thank you Danzo. :) I will await zackertys reply.
Kane
19-12-05, 05:47 PM
Probably find the airline will be the biggest problem :) be worth checking their rules too ...

Kane
tenbears10
19-12-05, 06:08 PM
Andy I checked with Zac before I went to NZ recently and he said SAKs were fine in almost all places and fixed blades would be fine camping out in the countryside. Just don't walk around town with a big knife and remember to pack them away if you fly internally.

As a side note I hardly used my fixed blade and with hindsight I could have left it at home. There are few places which allow fires so cutting wood and tinder are not really an issue. I mainly had to do food prep and eating which my locking SAK and leatherman were fine for.
Danzo
19-12-05, 06:56 PM
As a side note I hardly used my fixed blade and with hindsight I could have left it at home. There are few places which allow fires so cutting wood and tinder are not really an issue. I mainly had to do food prep and eating which my locking SAK and leatherman were fine for.

That's a good point. Even out in the wilderness of NZ you will find what they call 'huts' and these are often like a simple cabin. They can also be like a three side shelter with a roof.

The rule is you can use the firewood there, if you leave the same amount of wood. Same with emergency supplies, like candles and tinned food.

I think you are familiar with this from bushcrafting in Sweden, Andy?

You will need less kit than you think if you plan your route, as some of these huts have stoves.

Danzo
TheViking
20-12-05, 09:20 AM
The rule is you can use the firewood there, if you leave the same amount of wood. Same with emergency supplies, like candles and tinned food.

I think you are familiar with this from bushcrafting in Sweden, Andy?
Sure, leave the spot as we found it and leave some firewood for the next. :)

I'll check with the airline and then just carry the outrider in the outdoors.

Thanks guys, always good to be on the safe side.
Kane
20-12-05, 10:04 AM
Ohhhh so you need a SAK and something capable of cutting firewood :D

Kane
tenbears10
20-12-05, 11:42 AM
The couple of wild campsites we were on which did allow fires in metal grates also had an axe there (ok it was no gransfors but what do you expect) and chopped fire wood so there was no need to carry an axe.
Kane
20-12-05, 12:33 PM
Spoilsport :)

Kane
tenbears10
20-12-05, 12:43 PM
sorry mate ;)
Danzo
20-12-05, 12:51 PM
there was no need to carry an axe.

They do have some pretty scary small flightless birds. I'd take an axe just in case.

;)

Danzo
tenbears10
20-12-05, 03:15 PM
They do have some pretty scary small flightless birds. I'd take an axe just in case.

;)

Danzo

Don't let the DoC hear you say that.

The owner can be sent to prison if a dog kills a Kiwi. Bloody lucky we left our spaniel at home or I would have been doing a long stretch now. :O
Dougie
22-12-05, 05:14 PM
Shucks! I always had this romantic idea of NZ being a rural backwater where men could be men etc. Looks like civillisation has tamed it there as well! Still there's always Oz!

Doug
Danzo
22-12-05, 05:16 PM
Still there's always Oz!

I think it's illegal to carry any sort of knife at all in Sydney.

Danzo
Ratel10mm
22-12-05, 05:22 PM
My understanding is that it's illegal to carry ANY sort of knife, ANYWHERE in Oz without good reason! :O
Saint-Just
09-02-10, 10:25 AM
this is the most visible place, so a mod can move it if deemed necessary?

After a frenzied attack on a taxi driver, resulting in his death....nz government wants to ban the carrying of all knives, except with a reason provided by the knife carrier, why he/she is actually carrying it...if you are an electrician, and a fair distance away from the job...the excuse will not be accepted...

Sounds more and more like uk law?
Signs of the times, folks...

Those wanting to come out here soon?

Pm me and i will update the law for you?

There. :]
Ropeman
08-05-10, 11:05 AM
Some links provided by nzlander:

Link regarding bringing knives to NZ

http://www.police.govt.nz/faq/items/23137

Link regarding carrying knives in NZ

http://www.police.govt.nz/faq/items/23130

For which, thanks.
Kiri
08-05-10, 05:10 PM
I've never been to NZ but would like to as it looks like a beautiful country.

I know absolutely nothing about NZ law, however, I would imagine that as here in the UK, police info website pages may be more of an overview aimed at Joe Public rather than a definative guide.

It seems that the main prohibitions in NZ come from:

The Summary Offences Act 1981 S.13A

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1981/0113/latest/DLM53545.html

and The Crimes Act 1961 S.202A

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM329710.html

It's quite interesting to glance through these Acts, (some amusing crimes they've had to codify) they seem a bit more logically set out than some of our statutes here in UK, it's interesting though not really suprising to see whole paragraphs which have basically been lifted from our Acts, but then we lifted some of ours from American legislation! :)