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The General
10-11-03, 06:13 PM
Tai Pan by Cold Steel

Well this certainly is an interesting knife! 7.5" double edged broad spearpoint blade. The knife came with a stunning factory edge, literally scary shaving sharp! The grind lines are very precise, but the tip is not quite perfectly geometrically ground. OK so its not as good as my Randall model 2 but it is none the less well presented. The blade has a very nice satin finish and it really shows the fine grain of the steel used. The tsuba (cross guard) and pommel are well appointed and very much in keeping with the knife style. The Kraton grip is superb and makes loosing this knife even when the hands are slick with soap nearly impossible. The quality leather sheath also deserves comment, it is well above average for a factory knife. The leather used is obviously of quality and the stitching is excellent.

This knife feels 'alive' in the hand, it is very positive and is very easy to precisely place the knife for a cut with your eyes closed. You are never in any doubt where the knife is at any time. This is excellent for kitchen work, when you don't want to be constantly thinking about your knife, but rather on the ingredients! The double edged design effectively gives you twice the edge of a more traditional knife. This is excellent as you can sharpen one side to a wider angle for de-boning or chopping and the other can have its factory angle for slicing/paring cuts. I found the knife particularly suited to splitting a chicken carcass as well as slicing and dicing veg from mushrooms to carrots. This style of knife is far less suited to outdoors use as a camping or bushcraft knife. In fact I would argue that the double edge would make it very dangerous to use in such a situation. Just think about pressing on the back of the knife for extra control and a visit to hospital would result! Splitting and battening would be rather difficult to say the least!

Lets talk about the steel used. Cold Steel use AUS8 which is also known as 8a steel. If you see it called AUS8a then that is incorrect! This is a Japanese version of the American 440B grade steel. 440B grade steel is the stainless steel used by Randall made knives. This steel contains around 1% carbon and is essentially a stainless steel. 8a has slightly more alloys in the mix and is generally accepted to be a hairs breath better than 440B grade steel As ever however the heat treat will have far more to do with any difference in performance. Randall knives are mostly forged, whilst this knife is stock removal. Forging by hand is far more expensive and arguably gives the superior product. 8a steel has a good mix of edge holding and superior rust/stain resistance. Unlike many stainless steels, it is a dodle to sharpen and takes a breathtakingly sharp edge with little effort. It is worth noting that Spyderco used this steel for many many years as their standard knife steel. If you were to get critical, I would argue that for a pricey knife like this 8a is perhaps a rather dated steel. One would expect a superior steel like VG10 or the excellent S30V. However 8a has been time tested as a good steel with excellent toughness and very good stain resistance. In a larger knife this is desirable.

I am sure people could think of uses for this knife that I have purposely avoided touching on... I will ask all to avoid stating the obvious about the intended speciality that this knife may excel at! What kind of snake is a Tai Pan I ask you? What is its reputation? Remember this is a family board and any mention of 'combat' or MBC will get me wielding my Goderators stick!

Ophidian
11-11-03, 01:27 AM
Good review of this interesting blade from Cold Steel

As regards the snake, well the Taipan (note spelling) Oxyuranus scutellatus ranks as one of Australia’s most dangerous snakes. It is highly strung, alert and can deliver multiple bites in rapid succession. Before the advent of antivenom, bites where often fatal.

There is a close relative known as the Inland Taipan (or Fierce Snake) Oxyuranus microlepidotus which has the most potent venom of any land snake and carries enough venom to kill about 100 people. The thing is due to the remote areas in which the Inland Tapian lives, bites are very rare, only six recorded and each person survived.

And yes I’ve worked with Taipans.

PS, They are Elapids, so related to Mambas and Cobras

Danzo
11-11-03, 09:10 AM
Was that our first snake review by Ophi?

:yikes:

Excellent review Wayne. Anyone for Com?

:wink:

:biggthump

Danzo

bagman
11-11-03, 10:11 AM
dont fancy using it much in the kitchen Wayne

using your hand to push it down through a swede could be a bit dodgy :yikes: ;)

shing
11-11-03, 01:26 PM
I have a Peacekeeper which has a similar blade to the Tai pan. It too is a well made knife and comes very sharp.

eljockvis
11-11-03, 06:06 PM
hi all
while were on the cold steel subject,does anyone know if
this san mai 3 steel is any good,as i fancy one of those UTILITY KNIVES :p !

Danzo
11-11-03, 08:53 PM
dont fancy using it much in the kitchen Wayne

dousing your hand to push it down through a swede could be a bit dgy :yikes: ;)

Pushing it down through a Dane could be a bit dodgy too!

:yikes:

Nej tak!

Danske Danzo

ZDP-189
11-11-03, 09:44 PM
Oxyuranus scutellatus ranks as one of Australia’s most dangerous snakes. It is highly strung

With a name like that, I bet it got teased in school.

keith_beef
12-11-03, 12:16 PM
dont fancy using it much in the kitchen Wayne

using your hand to push it down through a swede could be a bit dodgy :yikes: ;)


Careful, Baggy, you'll get moderated if you insinuate that a Norwegian with an axe to grind might use it in that way...


Keith.

The General
12-11-03, 12:40 PM
My hand forged Welsh Longsword is double edged also and it cuts Swedes no problem! :wink: :p

Colin KC
12-11-03, 12:41 PM
hi all
while were on the cold steel subject,does anyone know if
this san mai 3 steel is any good,as i fancy one of these tanto fighters!


Utility knivesJock:rolleyes:;)

The General
12-11-03, 01:20 PM
Ta Colin, I missed that first time round! :o

San Mai III... Honestly? 8a steel with a 420J2 low carbon steel jacket...

Hmmmm.... :rolleyes:

eljockvis
12-11-03, 07:25 PM
lol i take it that means its pretty crap!,they are not cheap though
considering they are low quality steel,what is the best steel these days?
i had a chris reeve 1 piece which as you know was a2 it lost its edge
very quickly it seemed very soft and i had a peter bauchop warlock which was d2 which was a nightmare to sharpen i couldnt get a really sharp edge on it,is there any metals which can take and hold a good edge?

The General
13-11-03, 12:54 PM
CPM 3V
CPM S30V
VG10
S90V

All ought to give exeptional performance. A2 is however a good steel, but the Chris Reeve A2 fixed blades are tempered for maximum toughness and easy field sharpening.

Danzo
13-11-03, 02:41 PM
Wayne

What about D2?

Danzo

The General
13-11-03, 02:46 PM
Someone once said of D2 " it takes forever to get a mediocer edge and it holds this forever"

Honestly? It rusts like a high carbon steel, is not as tough as a high carbon steel, is hard to sharpen.... But has very good wear resistance and takes a stunningly scary edge :p I really like it! As long as you use a lot of oil on the blade... :(

Colin KC
13-11-03, 02:50 PM
Come on Wayne, you've seen the Alan Wood knife, 15 years & still good as new:)

I've a few D2 knives & never a spot of rust, with 10-11.5% chrome (rough guide, as I've not got the specs in front of me) it's gonna be pretty rust resistant;)

Danzo
13-11-03, 03:30 PM
Ooh! Fight! Fight! Fight!

;)

Danzo

soa
13-11-03, 05:51 PM
Someone once said of D2 " it takes forever to get a mediocer edge and it holds this forever"

But has very good wear resistance and takes a stunningly scary edge :p I really like it!

Scary being operative word - particularly on a Maxx 5.5

I keep banging on about this knife. Would any of you be interested in a passround on this (I would - eventually - want it back, mind). Just seems that Yog's currently doing all the production passrounds, and I thought it seems only fair to join in a bit.[and I don't have that many unusual knives]

Danzo
13-11-03, 05:56 PM
soa

A passaround on a Maxx 5.5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:yikes:

I'll come and get it from you!

:smlove2:

Danzo

The General
17-11-03, 06:16 PM
A Knife has to have 13.5% Chrome if memory serves to be stainless.

D2 is over 1.5% carbon, there lies the problem!

I asumed the Alan Wood was in such good condition as it has a polished finish and has been owned by experts who know how to look after a knife! :p

I live next to the sea.... I have seen Titainium rust! :p :wink:

ugug
17-11-03, 06:38 PM
soa

A passaround on a Maxx 5.5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I'll come and get it from you!

not if I get there first mate.. :twak: :biggthump .. actually i am contemplating buying a maxx or an emerson karambit so a passaround would be so cool . . :240: :thanks:

ugug

Colin KC
17-11-03, 06:57 PM
A Knife has to have 13.5% Chrome if memory serves to be stainless.

D2 is over 1.5% carbon, there lies the problem!

I asumed the Alan Wood was in such good condition as it has a polished finish and has been owned by experts who know how to look after a knife! :p

I live next to the sea.... I have seen Titainium rust! :p :wink:


fair do's wayne, but isn't that the crux of the matter? With good HT & care, a D2 knife will not rust! Hmmm?

soa
17-11-03, 08:53 PM
I suppose I had better honour my commitments, hadn't I? :rolleyes:

Those interested in seeing a ridiculously oversized knife at about twice the size and 1/3 the price of a Sebbie might find something of interest here (http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?p=20284#post20284)