Daywalker SubCom

[Danzo]

Hi folks

As most of you will know there has been a lot of interest in the Boker SubCom designed by 'Daywalker' (Chad to his mates) who is a well known figure across the Bladeiverse:

http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16428

I got mine today and I'm very impressed. Chad has said there will be a newer version coming out with an AUS-8 blade and longer clip, but despite that I'm interested to know if anyone is interested in a passaround of the original model? I propose it as a 'pay and raffle' passaround where participants pay their proportion of the cost and at the end we raffle it, winner takes all. If we get ten people then it will only be a couple of quid each as the knife only costs Eu29.00 delivered. I'll order it but not join in the raffle.

If you are interested then sign up below.

Danzo

[ElThomsono]

I'm in :D

It's an interesting knife, thanks for organising it Dan :)

[Pyro]

I'm in :D

[Cones]

Go on then. If I must. :D

Thanks

Mark

[Ratel10mm]

Yes please. :)

[Topcat02]

Yeah, sounds good, I suspect I'll end up buying one anyway though. :D

[BorderReiver]

Yes please:)

[Fraser]

Yes please!

[Danzo]

So far that's

Elthomsono
Pyro
Cones
Ratel
Topcat
BorderReiver
Fraser

Three more would be ideal as that makes ten participants and £2.00 each.

Anyone else?

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

Oi, Mr Moderator, you could have transfered my request from the original review thread, just cant get the staff nowadays :rolleyes: ;)

Needless to say Im in!!! :D :happy22:

Rgds

[JimN]

And me please

[Mr_Yarrow]

Mr_Yarrow :rolleye11:
Elthomsono
Pyro
Cones
Ratel
Topcat
BorderReiver
Fraser
S0laris

[PHIL562]

Last place for me please:)

[Danzo]

That's the ten:

Mr_Yarrow
Elthomsono
Pyro
Cones
Ratel
Topcat
BorderReiver
Fraser
S0laris
PHIL562

I'll close this now and order the knife.

Danzo

[ElThomsono]

Damn you Yarrow <shakes fist> :D

[Danzo]

Oi, Mr Moderator, you could have transfered my request from the original review thread, just cant get the staff nowadays :rolleyes: ;)

Needless to say Im in!!! :D :happy22:

Rgds

Didn't want to presume!

;)

And it's 'Mr Administrator, Sir', if you don't mind.

:sign24a:

Danzo

[WhiteWolf]

bu@@er missed :|

[khimbar1]

Rassenfrassen, rassenfrassen missed this cos of work!

[Danzo]

If there are another few people I don't mind getting one more, so lets have a second list! No promises though.

Whitewolf
Khimbar

:D

Danzo

[BorderReiver]

You may give my place to someone Danzo,I'm going to buy one anyway.:)

[Danzo]

OK, I'll leave this open until tomorrow night when I'm back from Wirksworth. If it stays at this level we'll have one, if it increases to around sixteen we'll have two.

Sound OK?

Danzo

[Danzo]

Now closed, I'll order today.

Danzo

[Danzo]

OK, the Toolshop software isn't allowing me to escape from two previous orders and so it wants me to order three knives.

:mad:

I'll be back......

:mad:

It's not Tool shop it's me....

:rolleyes:

Right, I'm going to bed!

:]

Danzo

[Daywalker]

Aloha Danzo,

Wow, sorry, I only noticed this now. Much mahalo's to everyone who has expressed an interest in the SF. Apparently, it is doing very well in Europe...I think better than in the US.

The "upgraded SF" will have AUS8 stamped on the blade as well as a longer clip. I hope.:huh: I will confirm this when I hear from BokerUSA, but the German Knifebrothers told me this info, so it should be all good.

There is also a SFB in the makes.

Also, another version of the SF with a "new" blade shape...I will keep everyone here updated, but for now, please enjoy the SF. All things considered, it really is a great lil' bugger!;)

Mahalo everyone, and thanks Danzo. God bless you all:!:
Chad8)

[Mr_Yarrow]

Didn't want to presume!

;)

And it's 'Mr Administrator, Sir', if you don't mind.

:sign24a:

Danzo

:sign27:

Rgds

[Danzo]

I'm still having problems with logging out of Toolshop folks.

:mad:

If I can't get a new one by tomorrow I'll send my own one round and cancel the cost.

Danzo

[Danzo]

OK, we have ignition!

:party11:

I'll be sending this out unopened, just so you know I'm not trying to pass off my old one!

;)

So if the first person who opens it finds a Wonka Golden Ticket then just keep schtum and order another Subcom, OK?

:rolleyes:

Danzo

[Danzo]

OK, knife arrived from www.toolshop.de this very moment. Can you all please PM addresses and head the PM 'SubCom Passaround' please. This is the final list:

Mr_Yarrow
Elthomsono
Pyro
Cones
Ratel
Topcat
Fraser
S0laris
PHIL562
Whitewolf
Khimbar

Eleven of you makes £1.80 each. Not sure if that will get eaten in Paypal fees so let me check!

Danzo

[Simon G]

OK, knife arrived from www.toolshop.de this very moment. Can you all please PM addresses and head the PM 'SubCom Passaround' please. This is the final list:

Mr_Yarrow
Elthomsono
Pyro
Cones
Ratel
Topcat
Fraser
S0laris
PHIL562
Whitewolf
Khimbar

Eleven of you makes £1.80 each. Not sure if that will get eaten in Paypal fees so let me check!

Danzo

Funny that you got such a list! When I offered to send mine around there were plenty that said they wanted a look, but then no-one took me up on the offer!:S ................Is it something I said?!:rolleyes:

[Danzo]

Funny that you got such a list! When I offered to send mine around there were plenty that said they wanted a look, but then no-one took me up on the offer!:S ................Is it something I said?!:rolleyes:

Dunno, maybe people just didn't see the post? Or perhaps people like the though of the gamble? £1.80 gives you a one in eleven chance of winning a £20 knife?

:huh:

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

Sorry Mr Moderator (SIR), have only just seen this post, but rest assured I have now PM'd you with my address. I am at a differnt office tomorrow, to the address I gave, but I will be back there Wednesday/Thursday and will coinfirm here once recieved.

Simon - I dont think I saw your post mate, otherwise I would have gone in for it, nothing personal just me likely being crap ;)

Rgds

[Danzo]

I've realised that my £1.80 costing accounts for the knife but not me posting it out, or the Paypal charges I mentioned. The cost of the passaround is therefore dramatically jumping to £2.07!

:O

I hope that's OK with everyone!

;)

Danzo

[Danzo]

Paypal address!

dhslaw AT hotmail.com

Thanks!

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

You are still out of pocket on the postage, but I will cover that myself as im first on the list and pay with the other item discussed :biggthump

[Pyro]

Paypal address!

dhslaw AT hotmail.com

Thanks!

Danzo
Payment sent :)

[PHIL562]

Paypal sent :D

[JimN]

Paypal sent

[Fraser]

Paypal sent.

[Danzo]

Thank you for your promptness gents.

I'm thinking that RMSD might be OTT for this one. It would cost a total of £50 which would buy two and a half of these knives, so I'm going with Recorded. It's not much but at least there is a receipt and a signature and it will be covered by the insurance.

Danzo

[WhiteWolf]

Hi Danzo

Address and payment sent :D

Andy 8)

[Topcat02]

Paypal sent for £2.07, is that still the correct figure?

TC

[Cones]

Paypal sent.

Sorry, I forgot about this last night. :ashamed05

Thanks

Mark

[Mr_Yarrow]

Hi Danzo,

Has this gone out to me yet?

Rgds

[Danzo]

Out today!

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

ta muchly, will confrim when recieved :biggthump

[Ratel10mm]

PP sent.

[Mr_Yarrow]

UPDATE - this has not yet been recieved by me, it left Danzo towers last week (I have the tracking ID) and according to RM its still in transit and has not been reciepted yet.

I will post an update when i have more.

Rgds

[Danzo]

Any news?

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

Was about to PM you for the track and trace number again as ive deleted it :rolleyes: sorry

But I hate to say I am agreeing with you that this has been 'lost' :(

Rgds

[Danzo]

Details at home but I'll see if I still have the PM.

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

ta mate

[Danzo]

Can't find the PM.

:rolleyes:

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

doh, neither can I, just tripled checked :C

[Danzo]

I've got the receipt at home. I think I'll send my one if the passaround one doesn't materialise.

Danzo

[bardster]

I've got the receipt at home. I think I'll send my one if the passaround one doesn't materialise.

Danzo

I have a spare one of these if you want to use that as the passaround?

[Danzo]

If it's unused then that could be the answer bardster, many thanks. I'll send you the money for it as this is a raffle passaround, and then claim on the insurance. If it turns up it can then be sold or something.

Danzo

[bardster]

If it's unused then that could be the answer bardster, many thanks. I'll send you the money for it as this is a raffle passaround, and then claim on the insurance. If it turns up it can then be sold or something.

Danzo

Yup its brand new in its box. If Mr Yarrow pm's me his address I'll get it off.

[Danzo]

I guess that's OK with everyone? Bardster, if you take Paypal send me your address and I'll get the money to you. If no PP then your address and I'll send you a cheque.

Many thanks for helping out, you got rep points!

:biggthump

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

PM sent to the B man.

I have checked the RM site as I found the tracking number and its still' in transit'

Thanks mate

[Mr_Yarrow]

Got a delivery this morning :biggthump

Bardster - is that the factory edge? If so, me likely :D

Its diddy innit! Looks nice, feels nice and is very sheeple friendly, just a pity its a locker :(

I am finding the opening method a bit tricky, but DW did warn about that. Am getting better at it as I practice.

Also, the ball detent lock is amazingly strong, theres also a very positive click as the blade passes the ball and before it engages the lock.

All I can asy at th mo is, someone give me a good reason to let me EDC this beauty :C

Rgds

[bardster]

Got a delivery this morning :biggthump

Bardster - is that the factory edge? If so, me likely :D

Its diddy innit! Looks nice, feels nice and is very sheeple friendly, just a pity its a locker :(

I am finding the opening method a bit tricky, but DW did warn about that. Am getting better at it as I practice.

Also, the ball detent lock is amazingly strong, theres also a very positive click as the blade passes the ball and before it engages the lock.

All I can asy at th mo is, someone give me a good reason to let me EDC this beauty :C

Rgds


Excellent, my replacement for it arrived too. Heinnie now have them in stock at £23 and next day delivery! :D :D
Yup that is indeed the factory edge. I have carried my other one nonstop for about 6 weeks now and havn't sharpened it yet. Gets used for opening all sorts. and its still allmost shaving sharp.
Although it looks small and sort of disapears in the hand it cuts like a big knife.
nobody blinks when i use it in the office. its great. If I was stopped by anyone and asked to justify it i would say that its a safe box opening tool, and it doesnt scare people like my perfectly legal pocket knife, showing the UKPK. :D :D

The opening gets easier - the khife seems to need wearing in. mine now opens so smoothly i can open it with a flick of my thumb. The new one is a little too stiff to do it with.
But its a superb design and I will continue to carry it as EDC.

I think - and this is opinion only - that a police officer would have to be having a really bad day, or you were being particularly stupid, to get pulled with this.

[Danzo]

Ooh, bardster, I forgot to PP you! Incoming!

:D

(How much you want?)

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

Danzo,

I havent sent you anything for this at all yet, shall I send it straight to Bardster?

Rgds

[Danzo]

Danzo,

I havent sent you anything for this at all yet, shall I send it straight to Bardster?

Rgds

Probably, but I don't know how much he paid for his. I'll cover any difference if it wasn't from www.toolshop.de......

........within reason!

:D

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

I think - and this is opinion only - that a police officer would have to be having a really bad day, or you were being particularly stupid, to get pulled with this.

The point is that as much of an ass as we know the law is, its the law and no matter how bad the constables day may be, he has a right to pull me up on it.

However, I have been thinking about this for a while and I reckon I open enough boxes, packages etc to use that argument and am now thinking I will get one and carry it. But, I will remain constantly aware that I may have it confiscated or have other things 'happen to me' if I were searched and it found.

Rgds

[bardster]

Oh I quite agree Mr Y, but having a &#163;23 knife confiscated would not hurt nearly as much as a &#163;53 knife... As a computer engineer/systems installer I am constantly opening boxes so feel thats its justified to carry a "small" knife, locking or otherwise. But i really couldn't justify doing the same tasks with a UKPK - especially in the environment where I work. Even though it is legal. I know its raising an old arguament here about the UKPK so I shall say no more.

And Danzo? it cost me &#163;22.95 from heinnie. And you may as well knock off the postage for the TBI's :) seeing as I owe you that anyway :)

[Danzo]

OK, cool. Bardster, I'll PP it ASAP, but I've just had a flip out from Paypal. You'll have the dosh today.

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

...but I've just had a flip out from Paypal...

Sounds kinky and painfull ;) :lol:

[Daywalker]

Excellent, my replacement for it arrived too. Heinnie now have them in stock at £23 and next day delivery! :D :D
Yup that is indeed the factory edge. I have carried my other one nonstop for about 6 weeks now and havn't sharpened it yet. Gets used for opening all sorts. and its still allmost shaving sharp.
Although it looks small and sort of disapears in the hand it cuts like a big knife.
nobody blinks when i use it in the office. its great. If I was stopped by anyone and asked to justify it i would say that its a safe box opening tool, and it doesnt scare people like my perfectly legal pocket knife, showing the UKPK. :D :D

The opening gets easier - the khife seems to need wearing in. mine now opens so smoothly i can open it with a flick of my thumb. The new one is a little too stiff to do it with.
But its a superb design and I will continue to carry it as EDC.

I think - and this is opinion only - that a police officer would have to be having a really bad day, or you were being particularly stupid, to get pulled with this.

Aloha bardster,

My goodness man, mahalo for the kind words regarding the SF. Er...would you mind if I copy thid over at the Boker Forums on BF? I have a sticky there about ongoing reviews of the lil' guy.;)

6 weeks w/o a resharpening...not surprised. Only thing that surprises me is that it is a blade fashioned out of 420J2, yet doesn't "act" like it!:D

Mahalo much once again, and God bless you sir,
Chad8)

[Daywalker]

Got a delivery this morning :biggthump

Bardster - is that the factory edge? If so, me likely :D

Its diddy innit! Looks nice, feels nice and is very sheeple friendly, just a pity its a locker :(

I am finding the opening method a bit tricky, but DW did warn about that. Am getting better at it as I practice.

Also, the ball detent lock is amazingly strong, theres also a very positive click as the blade passes the ball and before it engages the lock.

All I can asy at th mo is, someone give me a good reason to let me EDC this beauty :C

Rgds

Aloha Mr_Yarrow!,

Yes, the "sweet spot" is the part of the stud closest my logo, and PRESS it open, don't "push" it. I'd have liked the stud to have been made a bit better, but oh well.:rolleyes: Once you get used to opening it, it opens *fast*...

Now, as for an excuse to carry it, sir, it is so small. Fits in watch pocket of jeans, or simply carry in back pocket. I don't know how common this is for you, but everytime someone asks to borrow a knife, pass them the SF as opposed to your UKPK.:D

The SF is a small cutter with pretty big cutting ability. Outcuts every knife I own in it's size range, YET it is more expendable. I mean, i'd much rather lose, or have someone misuse this knife than let's say...my Spyderco Dragonfly, Kiwi, or Cricket. :rolleyes: I know of a few people who carry it on their keychains and it doesn't "look like a knife" when closed, so it merely get's overlooked as some kinda car remote.

Simply put, it is a user that can take a heck of a beating...I abused the heck out of the pre-pro sample I got and it's still in top shape, only had to resharpen here and there, or just strop it, and tighten the pivot. That's it. Also it is very people friendly...some even think it's *cute*.:lol:

Keep us posted please, and God bless:!:
Chad

PS: I am not familiar with your laws there...is the SF a legal locking knife to carry?:huh:

[bardster]

Aloha bardster,

My goodness man, mahalo for the kind words regarding the SF. Er...would you mind if I copy thid over at the Boker Forums on BF? I have a sticky there about ongoing reviews of the lil' guy.;)

6 weeks w/o a resharpening...not surprised. Only thing that surprises me is that it is a blade fashioned out of 420J2, yet doesn't "act" like it!:D

Mahalo much once again, and God bless you sir,
Chad8)

No problem with quoting this at all - you can also tell them that I have now bought 5 of them.... Although I only now posess 3 :D and will probably buy the new version too when it arrives.

[Daywalker]

Aloha Bardster,

Cripes!!! 5??? Not even I have that many!:lol: Mahalo much for your support, and I too eagerly await the "improved models". Just wait until the next variant comes out!;)

Sir, thanks again.

Okay Danzo, sorry for going off topic.:X

God bless and take care:!:

[Danzo]

Okay Danzo, sorry for going off topic.

Chad, that's like apologising to Barney the Dinosaur for being purple yourself.

:D

If you could convince Boker to do a slipjoint version of this I reckon they would sell even more. It would make them 100% legal in Britain, and if the thumbstud was replaced by a simple 'nick' like on a SAK they would be legal in Denmark. And the European Union is looking hard at Denmarks law.

Even back in the USA I know a lot of folks are beginning to worry about carrying locking blades, however small.

Maybe a thought?

Keep safe, mate

Danzo

[Stuart Ackerman]

On the sharpening aspect of this little beauty...I have touched it up ONCE, with three stokes either side of the blade with a medium grey ceramic rod, and I cut with it every day...maybe just two or three cable ties, other times perhaps a few cardboard boxes...and most nights, I slice my food on the plate, but carefully so as not to flatten the edge...
420 steel? Use IT!!!

[Mr_Yarrow]

El T,

PM sent for address, want to send this out tomorrow as have a funeral on Friday :( so wont be in the office to send it out.

Ta

[Daywalker]

Mahalo guys!

On with the passaround:!:

@ Mr_Yarrow, do take care.:(

God bless8)
Chad

[Mr_Yarrow]

Thanks Chad.

I have the address from ElT and its going out today to his 'address'.

Rgds

[ElThomsono]

Thanks Chad.

I have the address from ElT and its going out today to his 'address'.

Rgds

Hey :mad:

I assure you it's real :rolleyes:

Cheers Si :D

[Daywalker]

Aloha ElThomsono,

So...do you have the SF yet?:huh:

God bless and mahalo:!:

[ElThomsono]

It's arrived, but I haven't been able to pick it up yet.

I'm looking forward to it, it's an unusual design :)

[Stuart Ackerman]

I was first on the scene at a road accident to day, and afterwards showed one of the cops the "cute" knife..I had cut the safety belts to get two children out. The edge was sharp, and the cuts clean, and the officer thought I had used a scalpel!
I had to justify my actions, and so showed him the Daywalker...

He will be Googling tonight, no doubt!

[Daywalker]

I was first on the scene at a road accident to day, and afterwards showed one of the cops the "cute" knife..I had cut the safety belts to get two children out. The edge was sharp, and the cuts clean, and the officer thought I had used a scalpel!
I had to justify my actions, and so showed him the Daywalker...

He will be Googling tonight, no doubt!

Aloha Knifebrother,

Cripes zack'...thank God you were there!!! Awesome bro! However...aren't all your knives like scalpels?;)

take care and keep in touch sometimes!
God bless and thank you:!:
Chad

[Stuart Ackerman]

I removed the clip today, just to carry the knife in my waistcoat pocket...
It does make it a touch thinner, and might even fit in my Billabong wallet...
420 steel can be improved on, we all know that, but I am happy with the "tests" I have done...I have some poly slings to test cut, so that I shall do...

[Daywalker]

It's arrived, but I haven't been able to pick it up yet.

I'm looking forward to it, it's an unusual design :)

Aloha ElThomsono...

Didya get it yet?:lol:

God bless:!:

[ElThomsono]

Got it :)

It's well made, and definately a nice design but it's not for me. IMO the handle's too small to hold it well, unless you put your thumb across the entire spine of the blade. I liked the pocket clip, a little to strong for me, but if it was my own knife I would have just bent it out :)

I found that I wasn't using the thumb ramp as it was meant to be used, I was just using the very corner like you would use a stud. It opened very nicely, but after half an hour in front of a TV it starts to hurt your thumb. Not really a problem for a user though.

In terms of looks, it's great, very original and almost cute. A big hit with the NKP I showed it to :D

A couple of photos, nothing fancy:

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8831/s2020003small9jp.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6835/s2020005small9mz.jpg

It's off to Pyro now, thanks for the passaround.

[Daywalker]

Mahalo ElThomsono,

Ack! Sorry it wasn't your cup o' tea.:( I think you would have needed to fob it and run it tip down. Few folks had the same "feeling" towards the lil' SF as you did, but when I changed their clips to tip down and fobbed it, they were smiling afterwards.

Thank you though, I hope ONE of my designs will be YOUR "cuppa" one day!;)

God bless and take care:!:

[Pyro]

I got it today :D

My first impression was it was a lot smaller than I was expecting, I was expecting it to be closer to credit card size, but I think that was down to its shape, removing it from its box it felt a lot heavy than I was expecting, it's a nice satisfying weight, it gives it a good quality feel :)
I was expecting it to be a little tricky to open one handed, but I didn't have a problem, I opened it with my thumb first try and it made a nice satisfying click, I found disengaging the lock a little tricky, I haven't found a very comfortable way of doing it yet. My only other problem with is the clip is way too stiff, too stiff to actually be of any use, I couldn't manage to clip it on to my pocket or even my thin t-shirt so it certainly needs loosened up a bit.
It's been on mail opening duty this morning which it's been handling with ease as you'd expect, it's not going to get a lot of heavy duty use from me since I'm pretty much an arm chair user, but so far I'm rather impressed by it and if there was a looser pocket clip it would be an excellent EDC.

I will be getting one of these, it's a lovely little knife and my biggest problem with it is the pocket clip since I can get used to lock since it's really not that much of an issue.

Cheers

David

[bardster]

take the clip off and put a small piece of rubber or card under it - works a treat
for closing - hold it upside down and push the liner across with your thumb and close the blade with your index finger. the blade will close but be stopped by your thumb in the choil - remove thumb and finish closing. I carry mine every day - its my pocket fondler so i have become very practiced at opening and closing it ;) I can always show on a webcam if its not clear

[Daywalker]

Aloha Pyro,

THANK you sir. Be advised that the AUS8 versions are being sold in Germany and should hit everywhere else soon. I have seen pics of this "improved version" and the clip is longer...hopefully it eased the tension a bit. As for the closing aspect, I could have added notches to aid in closing, but I figured that I would just leave them off...I am never interested in closing a knife fast.:P


Bardster: Mahalo much my friend. You have described the way to close the SF safely perfectly! Thank you.;)

God bless you guys and mahalo much!

[Daywalker]

Aloha ALL,

So...who gets it after Pyro:?:

God bless and be safe all!8)

[bardster]

dunno - but I sent one to Hong Kong a few weeks back - and it hasn't arrived yet :(

[Daywalker]

dunno - but I sent one to Hong Kong a few weeks back - and it hasn't arrived yet :(

HEY! Not to be "knocked off" eh? LOL! Just kidding! Well, keep us posted on it's arrival. Man, the SF's are all over the place!;)

Mahalo bardster!

God bless:!:

[Pyro]

I'd love to see a slipjoint version of this knife (although I may get my own to EDC even if it locks), I plan to buy one for myself in May (I'm limiting myself to one new knife a month from now on), I've really fallen in love with this knife, it's been getting quite a bit of armchair use and I'll reluctantly be mailing it off to Cones on Monday or Tuesday since I'll have had it for a week on Tuesday.

David

[bardster]

HEY! Not to be "knocked off" eh? LOL! Just kidding! Well, keep us posted on it's arrival. Man, the SF's are all over the place!;)

Mahalo bardster!

God bless:!:
Nah - it was going to ZDP as a gift - looks like it may have gone astray :(

[Daywalker]

I'd love to see a slipjoint version of this knife (although I may get my own to EDC even if it locks), I plan to buy one for myself in May (I'm limiting myself to one new knife a month from now on), I've really fallen in love with this knife, it's been getting quite a bit of armchair use and I'll reluctantly be mailing it off to Cones on Monday or Tuesday since I'll have had it for a week on Tuesday.

David

Aloha Pyro,

Thanks for your kind words and support...the SF does "grow on people". I find that amazing...;) Now, a slippy SF, huh? Really?

God bless and mahalo!8)

[Daywalker]

Nah - it was going to ZDP as a gift - looks like it may have gone astray :(

Aloha bardster,

Whoa...bummer...I am praying that it arrives to ZDP, but I am also awaiting the AUS8, longer clipped versions to clear customs!;)

Mahalo for your wonderful support, and God bless:!:

[Mr_Yarrow]

I find that amazing...;) Now, a slippy SF, huh? Really?



What a bizzarre idea Chad, do you think it would ever work ;)

Hows hell these days?

[Pyro]

Mailed Cones off the subcom today, signed for first class so it should be with you tomorrow :)

[Cones]

Thanks. :biggthump

Mark

[Daywalker]

What a bizzarre idea Chad, do you think it would ever work ;)

Hows hell these days?

Aloha Mr_Yarrow,

Yes, bizzare indeed...I dunno if it could work as a slippy...maybe I could tinker with it and see "what happens".:lol:

Hellz? I dunno my friend, I have not seen him for awhile and...OH, sorry, "Hell"!!! Hell has been, well..."Hellish"...my last day at work, an inmate in iso was ranting about stabbing anyone with a sharpened chord wrapped instrument he had in his cell! Last year I had to join in the cell extraction team to take this guy down, and I worked with him in a unit for awhile, so I knew what he was capable of doing...idiot.

Take care my friend, and God bless!8)

[Daywalker]

Mailed Cones off the subcom today, signed for first class so it should be with you tomorrow :)

Mahalo Pyro:!:

God bless and thank you:!:

[Cones]

I've been playing with the SubCom all weekend. Well along with the Leafstorm. :)

Great small knife with excellent handling. The edge came up to scary sharp on the sharpmaker. So will the next person please take care. ;)

When are the new versions going to be available and where is the best place to get one? My friend thought it was great and now wants one. :D

Thanks

Mark

[Pyro]

Just wondering Mark, is your friend a NKP? It seems a lot more NKP friendly than the UKPK which is why I think it would make an ideal EDC :D

I didn't sharpen it since I'm not that confident with the sharpmaker yet (although I have been recruited t sharpen one of my friends dull SAK which it done an amazing job on), but it was sharp enough for everything I used it for when I got it :D

David

[Cones]

He is a NKP. But he takes an interest in many of the things I collect. He wants it for cable stripping at work. But is currently also looking at hawkbill bladed knives as well.

As EDC it would be good. Shame there is no slipjoint version for those of us without a good reason in the UK. Hint. :)

Thanks

Mark

[Stuart Ackerman]

I think a slip joint is a great idea...

[Cones]

I've taken a few pics. :)

Find them here in the usual spot under knives and stuff. http://www.cones-stuff.co.uk/

Thanks

Mark

http://www.cones-stuff.co.uk/Knives/Daywalker%20Subcom%20Pics/GM6I8106%20(Medium).JPG

http://www.cones-stuff.co.uk/Knives/Daywalker%20Subcom%20Pics/GM6I8105%20(Medium).JPG

http://www.cones-stuff.co.uk/Knives/Daywalker%20Subcom%20Pics/GM6I8110%20(Medium).JPG

[Daywalker]

I've been playing with the SubCom all weekend. Well along with the Leafstorm. :)

Great small knife with excellent handling. The edge came up to scary sharp on the sharpmaker. So will the next person please take care. ;)

When are the new versions going to be available and where is the best place to get one? My friend thought it was great and now wants one. :D

Thanks

Mark

Aloha Cones,

Mahalo much for your kind words. The SF is a neat lil' folder and does get "wicked sharp"...I am hoping the AUS8 version will be able to replicate this 420J2 edge.

The "improved" models are already out in Germany...AUS8 steel, longer clip. THIS was how it was to have been made from the start.:rolleyes:

Anyway, thanks again, and a heart felt thank you to your friend as well.;)

God bless:!:

PS: WHOA! GREAT PICS!!!

[Daywalker]

I think a slip joint is a great idea...

Aloha knifebrother!

Yes, a slippy SF...hmmmmmmm...

@ Cones: Hint taken:lol:

God bless you guys!8)

[bardster]

And at last Zed has got his! only 4 weeks to get from UK to HK!

[Pyro]

Great pics as always Mark :)

[Cones]

Thanks all for the comments. :)

The knife goes in the post tomorrow to Ratel10mm. :)

Mark

[Stuart Ackerman]

I was early for a customer today, and there was an old gum tree standing in the road reserve...I picked up a branch about half an inch thick and two foot long...
I whittled chisel edges and patterns in the branch, till it was too short to hold...
The edge would cut, but not shave...
The edge needed three strokes either side on a medium grey ceramic rod, and it was shaving sharp again...
The flat grind helps in slicing, and even though the 420 is not reknowned for edge holding...this little babe does well!

[Mr_Yarrow]

Zack - no offence mate but please shut up and STOP extolling its virtues till I can afford to get one :( have commited to many other things at the mo, so this is on the list but not viable quite yet :rolleyes:

[Stuart Ackerman]

BUT it is SO cheap...

I'll get me coat...

[Mr_Yarrow]

I'll get me coat...

Right answer...:P

[Stuart Ackerman]

It is a rather cheap coat, too...

[Ratel10mm]

It's arrived safely. Score so far: NKP says it's the nicest one he's seen me with. (The UKPK scared him.)
Package opening is a breeze, as you'd expect. Letter opening isn't so easy due to the blade geometry.
Thumb slicing is damned easy! Yes, I know I was warned. I was trying the thumbnail flick & somehow ended with my thumb resting on the edge. Wish I could get my edges this good!
Empty cardboard boxes don't stand a chance against stabbing.
Spydie drop takes a bit of practice to get right.
'Waving' it open on my chinos doesn't work. I'll try jeans at the weekend.
We're heading to the New Forest at the weekend, so it'll get some testing there.
Is it okay to keep it until Tuesday?

[224477]

Great knife, the Subcom, I EDC mine since I have it. I cant wait for another bladeshapes, I hope there will be some in the future.
Personally, my dream would be a full Ti handle framelock with laminated ZDP-189 blade :eek:

[Ratel10mm]

It's on it's way to TopCat now.
It's one of those gadgets that's very hard not to play with, isn't it? I drove the wife nuts, & even showed it off to peeps I wouldn't normally bore with sharp things. It proved good for light whittling, with plenty of control but heavier stuff got uncomfortable due to the 'teeth' on the handle.
It will 'wave' on jeans if pushed hard into the corner of the pocket to start with. It fits very nicely into the watch pocket. So well that you can forget all about it until you want it. It was o.k. for salad prep too, except I lost more blood to it in the process. Chad, this isn't a knife, it's a vampire! :D
One drawback of the deep blade is that it's difficult / impossible to make fine 'coring' type cuts, for. e.g. I normally cut around the stem of a pepper & remove most of the seed part that way, but with such a deep blade I couldn't maneuver it like I normally would, so resorted to sectioning the pepper & de-seeding each section. Similar curving cuts for carving & suchlike would present the same sort of problem. Errrrr, I mean reason for buying another knife! :D
I washed it this morning & stropped it to just shaving sharp (All it needed really, it was still sharper than most NKP's idea of sharp). There are a few light scratches on the LH side of the blade now from whittling. I hope that won't be a problem?

[Topcat02]

Well I received it today, and can't see what all the fuss is about. It's small it's solid, very sharp, and fits in your pocket.

It cuts, slices, and err flicks open and closed.

In fact I was so unimpressed I've bought an AUS8 one from Deutschland.

Who's next, I only needed 5 mins to make my mind up.

:D

[Daywalker]

I was early for a customer today, and there was an old gum tree standing in the road reserve...I picked up a branch about half an inch thick and two foot long...
I whittled chisel edges and patterns in the branch, till it was too short to hold...
The edge would cut, but not shave...
The edge needed three strokes either side on a medium grey ceramic rod, and it was shaving sharp again...
The flat grind helps in slicing, and even though the 420 is not reknowned for edge holding...this little babe does well!

Aloha zackerty,

EXACTLY!!! Man, I tell you bro, this is the oddest 420J2 I have ever experienced.:lol: That's a good thing though:!:

Mahalo knifebro, and God bless8)

[Daywalker]

Great knife, the Subcom, I EDC mine since I have it. I cant wait for another bladeshapes, I hope there will be some in the future.
Personally, my dream would be a full Ti handle framelock with laminated ZDP-189 blade :eek:

Ahoj 224477,

Thanks for your kind words and support. Ti handle, I agree...ZDP though, I have yet to experience.:C Shoot, I'd be happy with Ti and X15!;)

God bless and take care, good to see you:!:

[Daywalker]

Mahalo Ratel10mm and Topcat02!

Cripes...thanks a LOT guys. Sorry about them grooves Ratel10mm...perhaps a slippy w/o them?;) Mahalo for your review:!:

Topcat02...not fair. All the Euro guys have access to these AUS8 versions...I have yet to get one:!: :?: :!: Enjoy it and mahalo much!

God bless you both, and uh...who is next:?:

[Danzo]

Chad, do you want me to get you an AUS8 model? This German company:

https://www.toolshop.de/e/shop/knives_detail.jsp?productID=2698

Charge $31 for the Subcom, but almost the same to ship to the US. However shipping is free to the UK, and I guess it will only cost a few dollars for me ship to you.

If you have Paypal it would be easy to do.

Danzo

[ris]

It will 'wave' on jeans if pushed hard into the corner of the pocket to start with.

Skuze my igerunce but wassat mean then?

[Danzo]

Skuze my igerunce but wassat mean then?

'Waving' is opening the blade whilst drawing it from the pocket by catching the pocket seam with some sort of 'hook' on the spine of the knife. Invented by Ernie Emerson. See here:

http://www.emersonknives.com/Tact_index.html

The little hook thingy at the top catches on the pocket and opens the knife as you draw it. Mainly used for topics we don't discuss!

;)

Danzo

[Daywalker]

Chad, do you want me to get you an AUS8 model? This German company:

https://www.toolshop.de/e/shop/knives_detail.jsp?productID=2698

Charge $31 for the Subcom, but almost the same to ship to the US. However shipping is free to the UK, and I guess it will only cost a few dollars for me ship to you.

If you have Paypal it would be easy to do.

Danzo

Aloha Danzo...

Ahhhh, that is why you da manzo!;) I just found out yesterday that BokerUSA finally got them in! Cripes...:rolleyes: Hey, mahalo much though, I appreciate ya!

Now if only Blade-Tech can finish the SFB sheath soon.:rolleyes:

God bless and take care:!:

[Danzo]

Aloha Danzo...

Ahhhh, that is why you da manzo!;) I just found out yesterday that BokerUSA finally got them in! Cripes...:rolleyes: Hey, mahalo much though, I appreciate ya!

Now if only Blade-Tech can finish the SFB sheath soon.:rolleyes:

God bless and take care:!:

That's cool Chad, no worries. You'd have thought they might send you a box of them though, like publishers do with books!

:D

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

hmmmm sharp books :O


whole new meaning to paper cut







theres my coat...

[Danzo]

hmmmm sharp books :O


whole new meaning to paper cut







theres my coat...

Well, if I owned a publishing company.....

;)

Danzo

[Cones]

I've got some sharpe books. :)

They are the Bernard Cornwell type though.

Mark

[Ratel10mm]

Skuze my igerunce but wassat mean then?

Hi Riz

As Danzo says, it's to lever the knife open as you pull it out of your pocket.
The Suncom doesn't have a wave, but the thumbstuds are proud enough that they will catch on the edge of the pocket & 'wave' the blade open. However, I'll leave that there - as Danzo says it's primarily used in situations that are not discussed on this forum.

Now, I get to say something that I take a lot of fun in saying to a Mod: :D :P
Danzo, you're WRONG!

Emerson may have developed the wave into it's present form, but it was first invented (afaik) during / after the American civil war, where it was an indentation on the tip of a knife blade, used to catch on a belt loop or pocket edge & lever the blade open. It was designed for the thousands(?) of people who'd lost a limb in the war to be able to carry on using a pocket knife.
Here's a modern one: http://www.agrussell.com/knives/by_type/folding/slipjoint/bker_one_arm_jack.html

Sorry Danzo, I just couldn't resist! ;)

[Danzo]

Now, I get to say something that I take a lot of fun in saying to a Mod: :D :P
Danzo, you're WRONG!

Emerson may have developed the wave into it's present form, but it was first invented (afaik) during / after the American civil war, where it was an indentation on the tip of a knife blade, used to catch on a belt loop or pocket edge & lever the blade open. It was designed for the thousands(?) of people who'd lost a limb in the war to be able to carry on using a pocket knife.
Here's a modern one: http://www.agrussell.com/knives/by_type/folding/slipjoint/bker_one_arm_jack.html

Sorry Danzo, I just couldn't resist! ;)

No worries, that's really cool!

:biggthump

We all repeat the things we thought were true ad nauseum but I'm always pleased to see that accepted truths are wrong and stuff existed much earlier than we believe. Like pasta. Everyone got so involved in the Chinese/Marco Polo/Italian argument they didn't bother to check with the Greeks who have made pasta for about four thousand years.

:D

Danzo

[Fraser]

Ernie Emerson patented the modern incarnation called the "Wave", but various designs (such as the one Ratel linked to) and mods have been used over the years. One of the budget options was to put a cocktail stick/match inside the knife so that the blade didn't close fully. The tip of the blade, protruding from the scales, would then catch on the pocket and open the knife on the draw.

Anyhoo, it's my turn for the Subcom now I believe? :banana:

[Brainflex]

Just got myself a subcom on the strength of this thread and what a superb little knife.Small but easy to hold and cuts beyond its size.

[Stuart Ackerman]

Ernest invented the "Wave" by accident...and as most accidents turn out well, this one did!

I still open a Spydie knife quicker than most people can with a Wave, though...

[Stuart Ackerman]

...'Cause you never know when a sneaky piece of rope will creep on ya!!

[Mr_Yarrow]

Do you use the spyderhole flick then? Sal demonstrated such a method at the Leeds meet and was promptly banned by Colin :ralmao:

[Ratel10mm]

Mahalo Ratel10mm and Topcat02!

Cripes...thanks a LOT guys. Sorry about them grooves Ratel10mm...perhaps a slippy w/o them?;) Mahalo for your review:!:


Hi Chad

Having read the Boker forum, I know the thought behind the grooves. They're good for that reason, but yeah, a slippie version without them would be good for the UK! :D

[Stuart Ackerman]

Do you use the spyderhole flick then? Sal demonstrated such a method at the Leeds meet and was promptly banned by Colin :ralmao:

I can neither confirm nor deny...:D

[Daywalker]

Just got myself a subcom on the strength of this thread and what a superb little knife.Small but easy to hold and cuts beyond its size.

Aloha Brainflex,

Thanks for your support. Yep, the SF is a good lil' one...it's the one I hand out when someone asks to "borrow a knife" without worrying about it. There is NO way I am gonna unsheath my BOOMERANG (yes, made by our very own zackerty) and let some non-knife person use it!:P

God bless and mahalo:!:

[Daywalker]

Hi Chad

Having read the Boker forum, I know the thought behind the grooves. They're good for that reason, but yeah, a slippie version without them would be good for the UK! :D

Aloha Ratel10mm,

Hey, will try to get that done for the folks in the UK...;) Just gotta see if the CEO came back yet.:) Thanks again!

God bless and take care:!:

[Mr_Yarrow]

Chad,

What happened to the oh-so subtle 'hints' on a slippy? couldnt hold on to the excitement :lol:

[Daywalker]

Chad,

What happened to the oh-so subtle 'hints' on a slippy? couldnt hold on to the excitement :lol:

Aloha Mr_Yarrow!

Great to see you my friend!

Ahhhh, the slippy..."subtle hints" they were then, and will continue to be...:lol: Will keep you posted;)

God bless and take care:!:

[Fraser]

I got this on Friday. I REALLY like it. Tiny, comfortable in the hand, and "friendly" enough to be handed to even the most knife-phobic of colleagues.

Nice job Chad! I'll be picking one of these up soon.

[ris]

I was interested when this thread started despite my thinking that I have quite enough knives ... well, more than enough really ... but I certainly do not need any more bushcraft/fixed blades and I'm not that interested in folders ... but this is quite an unusual shape and it intrigued me and ... oh, you know the rest. When I heard that the toolshop had the AUS8 version and that it was only 29 euros I just couldn't stop myself.

Anyway, I'm well pleased with it; fits my jeans subcom pocket (as an aside: I guess most people consider these pockets are for small change but I'm sure I read somewhere they were originally designed for pocket watches; I certainly can't get change out of them when I need it. However, the pocket could have been designed for the subcom :D ). I found it not so great at slicing through thin branches; the extreme curve seems to make the blade slip around the branch but then I guess it wasn't designed for that use anyway. I really do like the way it can be carried so unobtrusively.

One thing I wanted to comment on though is the thumb stud. I think it should be rotated through 30 - 45 degrees so that, when the blade is housed, the stud would be in a line with the hinge. Were the stud round it wouldn't be directional in any sense but this stud slopes inward and has a flat face almost parallel with the blade's spine. These features make you want to push or pull it out perpendicularly to the blade's spine but you really need to push it almost in the reverse direction to which the blade points when housed. If the stud were rotated it would indicate the direction in which force should be applied.

Just an idea and a small point ... I've never designed, or made, a folder. I'm interested to know what fellow BBers think.

[Daywalker]

I got this on Friday. I REALLY like it. Tiny, comfortable in the hand, and "friendly" enough to be handed to even the most knife-phobic of colleagues.

Nice job Chad! I'll be picking one of these up soon.


Aloha Fraser,

Thanks for your kind words and support! Remember, fobbing it will make it feel "bigger".;) Glad you liked it and thanks for saying so!

BTW...what is your avatar if I may ask?

God bless and mahalo!8)

[Daywalker]

I was interested when this thread started despite my thinking that I have quite enough knives ... well, more than enough really ... but I certainly do not need any more bushcraft/fixed blades and I'm not that interested in folders ... but this is quite an unusual shape and it intrigued me and ... oh, you know the rest. When I heard that the toolshop had the AUS8 version and that it was only 29 euros I just couldn't stop myself.

Anyway, I'm well pleased with it; fits my jeans subcom pocket (as an aside: I guess most people consider these pockets are for small change but I'm sure I read somewhere they were originally designed for pocket watches; I certainly can't get change out of them when I need it. However, the pocket could have been designed for the subcom :D ). I found it not so great at slicing through thin branches; the extreme curve seems to make the blade slip around the branch but then I guess it wasn't designed for that use anyway. I really do like the way it can be carried so unobtrusively.

One thing I wanted to comment on though is the thumb stud. I think it should be rotated through 30 - 45 degrees so that, when the blade is housed, the stud would be in a line with the hinge. Were the stud round it wouldn't be directional in any sense but this stud slopes inward and has a flat face almost parallel with the blade's spine. These features make you want to push or pull it out perpendicularly to the blade's spine but you really need to push it almost in the reverse direction to which the blade points when housed. If the stud were rotated it would indicate the direction in which force should be applied.

Just an idea and a small point ... I've never designed, or made, a folder. I'm interested to know what fellow BBers think.

Aloha ris,

Thanks for your support and for your comments. I liked that one about the SF pocket on jeans!:lol:

Well, as for the stud, I tried placing it closer to the way you interpreted...sort of. When I used gloves, my glove would get caught on the way out on the scale. (This knife I thought would do well in Europe, so I had to take into consideration the winter use of the SF;) ) The "sweet spot" on the SF is the corner of the stud closest my logo. Try hitting it there and pressing it open...you *might* forgive me and Boker for not moving the stud.;)

Anyway, all in all, I am glad that you liked it enough to buy one. About the branches, perhaps just getting used to the SF will change it's affect on them?;)

God bless and mahalo for taking the time to comment!8)

[Fraser]

Hi Chad. My avatar is the wonderfully talented Eliza Dushku, of Buffy the Vampire Slayer et cetera.

Oh, and another opinion on the Subcom: I showed the missus it yesterday. Her comments: "That's really cute! It's a sweet little chubby thing!".

This would perhaps explain what she sees in me... :O :P


SOlaris, you're up next. I'll stick it in the post this afternoon.

[Fraser]

Oh, and another thing: Anyone else think that a warnecliffe Subcom would be rather cool?
I think I may buy one and get someone here to re-grind it into a warnie.

[Danzo]

I just wanna say Happy 150th post to the Boker Subcom for the last post. Thats ten pages and 150 posts for the 'big little knife' which is a tribute to its appeal.

:D

Well done Subcom, and to Chad the proud Daddy!

:party11:

Danzo

[JimN]

SOlaris, you're up next. I'll stick it in the post this afternoon.

Cooool! Presumably this means you have my address, although I can't remember providing it :huh:

Eliza Dushku was always the better slayer than SMG, IMHO :D

[Daywalker]

Hi Chad. My avatar is the wonderfully talented Eliza Dushku, of Buffy the Vampire Slayer et cetera.

Oh, and another opinion on the Subcom: I showed the missus it yesterday. Her comments: "That's really cute! It's a sweet little chubby thing!".

This would perhaps explain what she sees in me... :O :P

SOlaris, you're up next. I'll stick it in the post this afternoon.


Aloha Fraser,

Ahhhhh, okay, thanks for telling me.

Yes, the SF gets that response of "cuteness" a LOT. What is odd is that some guys say it's cute, then talk about all the nasty things that I cannot talk about here which can be done with the SF!:rolleyes:

May I say that you and your wife, have great taste!;)

God bless and mahalo:!:

[Daywalker]

Oh, and another thing: Anyone else think that a warnecliffe Subcom would be rather cool?
I think I may buy one and get someone here to re-grind it into a warnie.

Aloha again Fraser,

Please...words of advice:

DON'T DO IT!

Trust me.;)

God bless and take care:D

[Daywalker]

I just wanna say Happy 150th post to the Boker Subcom for the last post. Thats ten pages and 150 posts for the 'big little knife' which is a tribute to its appeal.

:D

Well done Subcom, and to Chad the proud Daddy!

:party11:

Danzo


Aloha Mate,

Danzo the Manzo, mahalo my friend. It is rather amazing how well this lil' one caught on all over the place...allow me to add some quotes for the SF to "celebrate":


"The SUBCOM is a stout, extremely functional knife that offers big-blade cutting performance in a package so small you'll never want to be without it.”

Michael Janich
Contributing Editor
Tactical Knives Magazine



“Nice design, I like the concept.”

Steven Dick
Tactical Knives Magazine



“I was fortunate enough to evaluate the Boker/Magnum Subcom Folder designed by Chad Los Banos. This knife, although compact, performed every cutting task I asked it to, flawlessly. It's a compact knife that does a convincing impersonation of a full size knife, only it's very concealable.”

Rick Sjodin
ESDS Instructor



"Chad Los Banos' design endeavor is nothing short of creative genius, meticulously developed and designed from the blade point to the lanyard hole. The Subcom F is both attractive and functional much to his credit. It is refreshing to see new, innovative and creative design work enter the knife marketplace."

Sifu Dr.Jan Miller
Dragon Tiger Kung Fu Center, Smithtown NY


"The size of the SUBCOM Folder is perfect for a low profile EDC and got a good grip"

Fred Perrin


"May be cute, but damn sure cuts!"

Stuart Ackerman
Knifemaker/Designer

Mahalo much to everyone...you are all a part of the reason for the success of the SF.;) Thank you.

God bless and next it's S0laris's turn...:!:

[JimN]

Arrived this morning, now it's playtime :)

[Daywalker]

Arrived this morning, now it's playtime :)

Aloha S0laris...

Do play safely, and I am anxious to hear your thoughts on the lil' one.;)

God bless and thank you for participating:!:

[JimN]

After a nice play over the weekend this has now been posted onto Phil.

I don't think there's anything I can add that hasn't already been said; huge cutting ability for the size of the blade, nice & light, discreet size and comfortable to hold.

Unfortunately if I was in a position to justify a locking knife then I would probably have something bigger, therefore I don't think I'll be getting one. Of course, if a slipjoint version was available that would be a whole different story ...

Thanks Danzo et al for the chance to try this one out.

[PHIL562]

Just received, will carry instead of my UKPK as my EDC and report later ;)

[Daywalker]

After a nice play over the weekend this has now been posted onto Phil.

I don't think there's anything I can add that hasn't already been said; huge cutting ability for the size of the blade, nice & light, discreet size and comfortable to hold.

Unfortunately if I was in a position to justify a locking knife then I would probably have something bigger, therefore I don't think I'll be getting one. Of course, if a slipjoint version was available that would be a whole different story ...

Thanks Danzo et al for the chance to try this one out.

Mahalo S0laris,

Thanks for participating. Sad though, that something this size that locks needs to be justified.:C

I need to forward this to Boker...they have to see the need for an SF Slippy for you guys, and meet it.;)

God bless and thanks again:!:

[JimN]

Mahalo S0laris,

Thanks for participating. Sad though, that something this size that locks needs to be justified.:C

I need to forward this to Boker...they have to see the need for an SF Slippy for you guys, and meet it.;)

God bless and thanks again:!:

It's a pleasure and I agree that it is a shame that we would need a justification for something as innocuous as the SubCom, but such is life on this little island. I used to EDC a Tekna Xtra-Edge (http://www.tek-tite.com/src/product_info.php?id=790) until I came over to BB and found out what a naught boy I was being. Feel free to pass my comments onto Boker, I hope something comes of it.

[PHIL562]

PM sent to Khimbar

Whitewolf couldn't wait and he has gone at purchased one already, so Khimbar your next ;)

[PHIL562]

Its now on its way to Khimbar :)

I have been using this as my EDC in place of my UKPK for the last week.

Wot can I say that has not alreday been said, apart from great little knife, heavy enough so as you know its in your pocket but not too heavy as to be a nuisance. Pretty sharp and holds it really well, nice to hold etc etc

The only minus points for me were it locks and its a bit fiddly to unlock :rolleyes: Apart from that if I don't win the raffle then I will buy one :D

[Mr_Yarrow]

ooooh - i forgot I was gonna win this raffle, thats cheered me up a bit :D

rgds

[Daywalker]

Its now on its way to Khimbar :)

I have been using this as my EDC in place of my UKPK for the last week.

Wot can I say that has not alreday been said, apart from great little knife, heavy enough so as you know its in your pocket but not too heavy as to be a nuisance. Pretty sharp and holds it really well, nice to hold etc etc

The only minus points for me were it locks and its a bit fiddly to unlock :rolleyes: Apart from that if I don't win the raffle then I will buy one :D

Mahalo PHIL562,

Glad you liked it, and sorry for the way I designed the framelock. See, usually there would be grip notches on it to aid in closing, but uh...I was never a fan of quick closing a knife:lol: !

Mahalo for participating and for your support!

God bless and take care:!:

[Daywalker]

It's a pleasure and I agree that it is a shame that we would need a justification for something as innocuous as the SubCom, but such is life on this little island. I used to EDC a Tekna Xtra-Edge (http://www.tek-tite.com/src/product_info.php?id=790) until I came over to BB and found out what a naught boy I was being. Feel free to pass my comments onto Boker, I hope something comes of it.

Mahalo S0laris,

Thanks but...well...let's just say that Boker IS entertaining the idea of a SF slippy...:C So who knows...something in the form of a SF Slippy may come out of it. If not, there are a LOT of talented makers here who could perhaps modify one?:huh: :?:

God bless and take care:!:

[PHIL562]

Mahalo PHIL562,

Glad you liked it, and sorry for the way I designed the framelock. See, usually there would be grip notches on it to aid in closing, but uh...I was never a fan of quick closing a knife:lol: !

Mahalo for participating and for your support!

God bless and take care:!:

No problems Daywalker, take care ;)

[Daywalker]

Aloha ALL,

Alrighty then...so who has it now? Is it Khimbar?

I wonder what Whitewolf thought of the lil' bugger:?:

At any rate, mahalo much again to you all for participating, and God bless:!:

[khimbar1]

Finally managed to collect it today. Had it in my hands for about a minute before I knew I was going to get one. I hate this place...:rolleyes:

Who's next, all I needed to know was how much I 'needed' one...:D

[Danzo]

Dunno who's next, but I just want to put my two pence in for the slipjoint. I reckon that pretty much everybody here would buy a slippie version of the Subcom. It's discreet, functional, tough and cute, all at the same time. Adding 100% legal as well would be the all round package.

Except for a Spyderhole, but we can't have everything.

;)

Chad my friend, hassle those Boker suits! They'll go for the bottom line, so forward them this whole thread!

:D

Danzo

[Daywalker]

Finally managed to collect it today. Had it in my hands for about a minute before I knew I was going to get one. I hate this place...:rolleyes:

Who's next, all I needed to know was how much I 'needed' one...:D

Aloha khimbar1,

My goodness, what a nice thing to come home to after pulling a 16+ shift in Hell!!! Thanks for your kind words and for participating.;)

God bless and mahalo much:!:

[Daywalker]

Dunno who's next, but I just want to put my two pence in for the slipjoint. I reckon that pretty much everybody here would buy a slippie version of the Subcom. It's discreet, functional, tough and cute, all at the same time. Adding 100% legal as well would be the all round package.

Except for a Spyderhole, but we can't have everything.

;)

Chad my friend, hassle those Boker suits! They'll go for the bottom line, so forward them this whole thread!

:D

Danzo

Aloha Danzo the Manzo!

Hey my friend, I will let the cat out of the bag and say that Mr_Yarrow, bardster, Damage1978, UK KEN, and SimonG were all in cahoots with a SF Slippy design I did...I wanted to surprise you! However...

A batch of slippy SF's for some reason would have to be about double the usual batch size...I dunno if I am allowed to say exactly how much that is, but it is a LOT.

So, that being said... would a couple thousand UK folks buy an SF Slippy?;) :?: I did send Boker Germany this thread, and well...the only thing I think that is causing hesitation is the amount that would have made, and then hopefully sold.:C

I will keep trying though...it's terrible that a knife the size of the SF, or even a Spyderco Ladybug, needs to be "justified"...:huh:

Anyway, mahalo for your support Danzo, and to everyone else who posted here:!: :!: :!: I greatly appreciate you all.8)

God bless and take care:!:

[ging]

I have only just come across this thread, a slippy SubCom (or is it the Biscuit :)) sounds really cool.

Thanks Daywalker :)

PS Can't wait for the forum Lava!

[Danzo]

So, that being said... would a couple thousand UK folks buy an SF Slippy?

Y'know Chad, I wouldn't be surprised if the distribution was right. Maybe selling through outdoor stores and gadget websites as well as regular kife sellers. But it wouldn't just be UK I think. Denmark has strict laws as does Ireland. In factr in Ireland you can't carry any knife AT ALL without good reason, but a little box-cutter/pencil sharpener (;) ) like the Subcom would probably go unnoticed in the Emerald Isle.

And I've noticed that even in the US folks seem to go for the UKPK as a city knife. The NKP (Non Knife People, our polite term for 'sheeple') are everywhere and seem to worry a lot of US knifeknuts. Who's gonna freak out over a Slippy Subcom?

Boker! We want a slipjoint Subcom! The people have spoken!

:D

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

Danzo -wouldnt the thumb stud make the SC fall foul of Danish law?

Rgds

[PHIL562]

OK, knife arrived from www.toolshop.de this very moment. Can you all please PM addresses and head the PM 'SubCom Passaround' please. This is the final list:

Mr_Yarrow
Elthomsono
Pyro
Cones
Ratel
Topcat
Fraser
S0laris
PHIL562
Whitewolf
Khimbar

Eleven of you makes £1.80 each. Not sure if that will get eaten in Paypal fees so let me check!

Danzo


Now this is going to put the gypsies curse on me winning it, however are you gonna do the draw Danzo:C

[Danzo]

Now this is going to put the gypsies curse on me winning it, however are you gonna do the draw Danzo:C

We'll use Wednesdays lottery numbers, allocated in order. Any excess numbers that win go to a wildcard draw.

Fair?

Danzo

[Danzo]

Danzo -wouldnt the thumb stud make the SC fall foul of Danish law?

Rgds

Yeah, but I think that could be sorted easily enough. Maybe a nail nick that underlies a removeable thumbstud or something. Thinking caps needed!

;)

Danzo

[PHIL562]

Sounds fair ;)

[Daywalker]

Y'know Chad, I wouldn't be surprised if the distribution was right. Maybe selling through outdoor stores and gadget websites as well as regular kife sellers. But it wouldn't just be UK I think. Denmark has strict laws as does Ireland. In factr in Ireland you can't carry any knife AT ALL without good reason, but a little box-cutter/pencil sharpener (;) ) like the Subcom would probably go unnoticed in the Emerald Isle.

And I've noticed that even in the US folks seem to go for the UKPK as a city knife. The NKP (Non Knife People, our polite term for 'sheeple') are everywhere and seem to worry a lot of US knifeknuts. Who's gonna freak out over a Slippy Subcom?

Boker! We want a slipjoint Subcom! The people have spoken!

:D

Danzo

Mahalo Danzo,

Thanks for the info...I will keep trying...

God bless and have a great day my friend:!:

[Daywalker]

Danzo -wouldnt the thumb stud make the SC fall foul of Danish law?

Rgds

Aloha Mr_Yarrow,

Hey mate! Hope you and yours have been well.

Are you serious about the thumbstud & Danish law?:S Oh brother...:S :O

God bless and take care:!:

[PS_Bond]

Are you serious about the thumbstud & Danish law?:S Oh brother...:S :O


That's why the Danish Spyderco penknife has a nail nick rather than a Spyderhole.

[Daywalker]

Yeah, but I think that could be sorted easily enough. Maybe a nail nick that underlies a removeable thumbstud or something. Thinking caps needed!

;)

Danzo

Aaaaargh! Thanks for spoiling it Danzo...:rolleyes: No, it's okay though...perhaps I can now get feedback on this idea that I had with my SF to begin with. ;)

Take care and God bless:!:

[Mr_Yarrow]

Hi Chad,

Me and mine arent too bad mate, just tired and busy with work, but have a nice relaxing 5 day weekend coming up :D. Glad you still kicking after whats likely been another great week in hell :lol:

In particualr its one handed opening thats been banned in Denmark. So Spyderhole, thumb stud etc are not allowed - not sure if theres a disabled exception clause etc (yes im being serious and not trying to insult anyone)

Good luck in your ventures and no doubt chat later :biggthump

Rgds

[Danzo]

Is this now finished completely?

:huh:

Danzo

[bardster]

Yup - time for the draw!

[Stuart Ackerman]

Chad...and you doubted the popularity of your designs?
May you go from strength to strength...

[Danzo]

Yup - time for the draw!

OK, I'll allocate lottery numbers tomorrow and we'll use this Wednesdays draw.

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

Great, am really looking forward to getting this ;)

[Mr_Yarrow]

Danzo,

Whats the update on last night draw then? :D

Rgds,
Eager Beaver :biggthump

[Danzo]

Danzo,

Whats the update on last night draw then? :D

Rgds,
Eager Beaver :biggthump

I forgot it was Wednesday!

:rolleyes:

I'll allocate numbers for Saturdays draw today.

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

Mate, why not just number the participants in order of when they recieved the knife.

Type 'random number generator' into google and use one of those - job done, nothing to forget, not stress or pressure :biggthump

[Danzo]

Mate, why not just number the participants in order of when they recieved the knife.

Type 'random number generator' into google and use one of those - job done, nothing to forget, not stress or pressure :biggthump

I break techie stuff like that! But I'm happy if you want to do it and you are confident it works?

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

I did it for the raffle at Jacks and that was OK.

Those who didnt win didnt think so though :lol:

If you go through the thread and come up with a numbered list of participants based on when they got it, i.e im number 1, ElT is number 2 etc I will then sort out a random number generator from Google and send you the link, you just type in the number range 1-10 for example and it will them randomise those numbers.

Its very easy to do :D

[Pyro]

1. Mr_Yarrow
2. Elthomsono
3. Pyro
4. Cones
5. Ratel
6. Topcat
7. Fraser
8. S0laris
9. PHIL562
10. Whitewolf
11. Khimbar

[Mr_Yarrow]

Thanks Dave :biggthump

This is the web I used - http://www.random.org/sform.html

And this is the number string I got from it;

1
5
3
11
10
7
8
6
4
9
2

EDIT: it uses white noise to create the random pattern, so should be repeatable result once, everytime or never, pretty much true random. Very handle toll me thinks for this kind of thing. The site lets you enter a number from 10-100'000 so should cover every BB competition for the time being :ralmao:

And its free :D

[Danzo]

Thanks Dave :biggthump

This is the web I used - http://www.random.org/sform.html

And this is the number string I got from it;

1
5
3
11
10
7
8
6
4
9
2


These might as well be the numbers in Lost! What do they signify? What do you do with them?

:huh:

Danzo

[Mr_Yarrow]

Ok, will take it nice and slow ;)

1, Dave gave everyone a number, based on when they recieved a knife

2, I went to the website I listed and put in the number range 1-11

3, The site generated a random sequence based on those numbers

4, The first number generated is the winner

5, The sequence I posted was what happened when I gave it that number range.

OK :D

[bardster]

With you as winner ;) :D :D

[Mr_Yarrow]

Funilly enough I was quite startled that my test should make me winner as well :D

I re-did it and I came 4, 8 and 9th. Its what I used to do the raffle at Jacks. That was a number string of 1-48.

Just trying to show what a random pattern might look like :)

EDIT - this is the threads 200th post, great passaround thread guys and gals :biggthump

[Danzo]

Ok, will take it nice and slow ;)

1, Dave gave everyone a number, based on when they recieved a knife

2, I went to the website I listed and put in the number range 1-11

3, The site generated a random sequence based on those numbers

4, The first number generated is the winner

5, The sequence I posted was what happened when I gave it that number range.

OK :D

Ah, I was overcomplicating things somewhat!

:rolleyes:

I thought that you would then use the string as a basis for something else!

The reason for my suggestion of the lottery numbers is that it's totally transparent, whereas with this I could simply choose someone.

If everyone is OK with it and trusts me I'll use it though.

Danzo

[khimbar1]

Is it not just easier to say I won and then I don't have to post it on? :rolleyes:

[Danzo]

Is it not just easier to say I won and then I don't have to post it on? :rolleyes:

Easier for me to say I won 'cos then I have two.

;)

Danzo

[Danzo]

I'm not keen on this random number thing I've decided as I like to be above board, and waiting for the lottery numbers will add a little tension to the proceedings!

:D

Danzo

[JimN]

I'm not keen on this random number thing I've decided as I like to be above board, and waiting for the lottery numbers will add a little tension to the proceedings!

:D

Danzo

So how are you going to tie the lottery numbers up with the draw? Will it be a case of the first lottery number that comes up that is in the range 1 - 11 will indicate the winner from Pyro's list?

[Danzo]

So how are you going to tie the lottery numbers up with the draw? Will it be a case of the first lottery number that comes up that is in the range 1 - 11 will indicate the winner from Pyro's list?

Ooh, crikey, don't complicate things Jim!

:C

I'll allocate numbers based on the number of those involved (11) divided into the available lottery numbers (49) and then whoever gets the bonus ball number wins.

So that's numbers 1,2,3 4 for Mr Yarrow, etc. There will be five numbers left over but I shall devise a fiendishly clever (stop sniggering in that mocking fashion, Yarrow, it does not become you) wild card scheme before Saturday should numbers 45-49 pop up.

Simple, easy and very transparent.

Danzo

[JimN]

Ooh, crikey, don't complicate things Jim!

:C

I'll allocate numbers based on the number of those involved (11) divided into the available lottery numbers (49) and then whoever gets the bonus ball number wins.

So that's numbers 1,2,3 4 for Mr Yarrow, etc. There will be five numbers left over but I shall devise a fiendishly clever (stop sniggering in that mocking fashion, Yarrow, it does not become you) wild card scheme before Saturday should numbers 45-49 pop up.

Simple, easy and very transparent.

Danzo

I thought mine was easy & straightforward, but of course there was always the possibility of a roll-over (and then you could offer two subcoms :) )

I'll leave it in your more than capable hands and stop interfering (as long as I win of course :) ).

[bardster]

He He I could upset you all and ask for my subcom back......


(its ok I've still got two left..:D :D :D )

[Mr_Yarrow]

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Sounds good to me Danzo, I understand your methodology. The wife had to tell me to be quiet i was laughing so loud at your suggestion that I might snigger at you coming up with an ingenious plan :lol: However i would have no issue with you using the RNG, your an admin on BB, there are few people ive never met that I would trust more :D

[Danzo]

OK, here we are:

Mr_Yarrow 1 - 4
Elthomsono 5 - 8
Pyro 9 - 12
Cones 13 - 16
Ratel 17 - 20
Topcat 21 - 24
Fraser 25 - 28
S0laris 29 - 32
PHIL562 33 - 36
Whitewolf 37 - 40
Khimbar 41 - 44

If numbers 44 - 49 arise there will be a Wild Card Playoff.

:D

Danzo

[Pyro]

Khimbar's going to win since he has 42!

[Cones]

I may actually pay attention to the lottery now. :D

Thanks

Mark

[Fraser]

Well done Ratel!

Git. I wanted this. :lol:

[Danzo]

Well done Ratel!

:biggthump

Khimbar, if you would be so kind as to post this on to Ratel we can draw to a close a very interesting passaround. It didn't last the longest, or involve the most people, but it evolved over seven pages and received a mind-boggling 3324 views as I write!

Many thank to Chad the Daywalker for the Subcom design, Boker for putting it together, Bardster for getting us out of a hole when the first one went missing and everyone who participated.

:party11:

No thanks to the Royal Mail who lost the first knife and are still trying to wriggle out of compensation. But as we all have come to know and love they are an institution to whom the motto 'Less is More' was made for.....

:rolleyes:

Well done everyone, that was one a good one.

Danzo

[Stuart Ackerman]

I did a bit of wiring on Saturday, for a friend's house extension...I left my Stanley knife behind by mistake, as well as my Swisstool....and used my Subcom F the whole day for odd cutting jobs, baring wire, enlarging holes in plasterboard, and cutting pink batting (fibreglass). The shape of the blade is ideal for most tasks, and I found that the short curve has less chance of me cutting my opposed thumb.
About 15 strokes with a ceramic rod afterwards, a bit of isopropyl alcohol to clean the blade and handle cavity, and it looks good again...

[Ratel10mm]

Whhhooooo Hhhhoooooooooo!!!!!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :jumping41 :happy15: :boldred: :boldred: :party23:
Finally I win something via the lottery! :P :rolleyes:
Well, that about sums up my feelings on the matter! :D
Khimbar, do you need my address?

[Mr_Yarrow]

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Ok, not content with with winning a ColinKC knife at the Hammerin, he wins the subcom - git ;)

[Ratel10mm]

I guess I'm just fantastically luck at the moment mate. Wait 'til you see what I got at the weekend... :D

[khimbar1]

Whhhooooo Hhhhoooooooooo!!!!!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :jumping41 :happy15: :boldred: :boldred: :party23:
Finally I win something via the lottery! :P :rolleyes:
Well, that about sums up my feelings on the matter! :D
Khimbar, do you need my address?

Yes please. Be a shame to let it go though... :rolleyes:

[Daywalker]

Whhhooooo Hhhhoooooooooo!!!!!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :jumping41 :happy15: :boldred: :boldred: :party23:
Finally I win something via the lottery! :P :rolleyes:
Well, that about sums up my feelings on the matter! :D
Khimbar, do you need my address?

Aloha Ratel10mm,

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Do enjoy that lil' bugger and mahalo for participating!

God bless and take care:!: ;)

[Daywalker]

Well done Ratel!

:biggthump

Khimbar, if you would be so kind as to post this on to Ratel we can draw to a close a very interesting passaround. It didn't last the longest, or involve the most people, but it evolved over seven pages and received a mind-boggling 3324 views as I write!

Many thank to Chad the Daywalker for the Subcom design, Boker for putting it together, Bardster for getting us out of a hole when the first one went missing and everyone who participated.

:party11:

No thanks to the Royal Mail who lost the first knife and are still trying to wriggle out of compensation. But as we all have come to know and love they are an institution to whom the motto 'Less is More' was made for.....

:rolleyes:

Well done everyone, that was one a good one.

Danzo

Aloha Danzo,

I dunno what else to say to you and to everyone who participated except mahalo much.

All of you have been great, and the honor is indeed mine to have "met" you all in this passaround.;)

God bless and thanks again...er, BTW...what does "git" mean:?: :huh:

[Daywalker]

I did a bit of wiring on Saturday, for a friend's house extension...I left my Stanley knife behind by mistake, as well as my Swisstool....and used my Subcom F the whole day for odd cutting jobs, baring wire, enlarging holes in plasterboard, and cutting pink batting (fibreglass). The shape of the blade is ideal for most tasks, and I found that the short curve has less chance of me cutting my opposed thumb.
About 15 strokes with a ceramic rod afterwards, a bit of isopropyl alcohol to clean the blade and handle cavity, and it looks good again...

Aloha Knifebrother,

Ahhhh, it's still going, eh? That's great to hear...good to see you BTW. I hope you and yours have been well, and thanks for forgetting your Swisstool and Stanley at home!:P :D

God bless and keep in touch8)

[Danzo]

BTW...what does "git" mean:?: :huh:

It's a fairly mild mannered insult, that can also be used in a sort of friendly way. Maybe similiar to a**hole in America, but less severe.

Examples!

A workmate breaks your knife using it as a prybar: 'You stupid careless git!'

A buddy goes home with the cutest girl in the bar: 'You lucky git!'

Mainly used by men, and only ever used towards men. Still not a word you would use at the family dinner table.

We seem to have a lot of 'semi-bad' language like that, don't we? I'm sure it confuses Americans no end, as there isn't a real comparison to our more jokey swearing.

Danzo