A point of interest

[ghostsix]

If memory serves the English Bill of Rights of 1688 guaranteed the right to keep and bear arms, not just for the nobles.
It has been said that Great Britain lies in Flander`s field. It lost its gene pool. This is when the govt. quit trusting its subjects. Only the dregs of society were left. Both in WW1 and WW11 you had 20% of your population in uniform. That is two generations lost. All but the rich were disarmed by WW11, and we sent you weapons. Some you sent back, but many were lost. Next time, I am not giving you any of my spares.
Only The UK is left.
England made great guns, much coveted in the U.S.
H&H, Purdy, Boss, Greener, Anson & Dealy, etc. The .375 H&H of 1925, which is a necked up .300 H&H of 1912 is still widely used. I have one. You can buy ammo anywhere. Bisley used to be a major shoot. Special pistols were made to give a competetor an advantage. That left with the empire.
I do not wish to be an ugly American here, but gee whiz, you are bringing this upon yourselves.
I am a Marshal. We certainly do not have hot burgs or B&E`s here. Everybody is armed. That would be suicide.
My latest knife is a Bench Made Axis Auto 5000, just to justify this post.
If I am out of line, I regret the perception. I am a guest here.
We have pretty much gotten along since the war of 1812.

[Mr. Bombastic]

The Bill of Rights guaranteed nothing. We have no Constitution so the government is free to trample on our rights and freedoms as it sees fit. The government is more than happy to pass laws that have no effect on violent crime, except to promote it. Why? Because many believe somehow that criminals obey the law and that they will be less inclined to do things if they are illegal. Thus, these people feel safer and vote for The Party that passed the law.

This is not a dig at this particular government. This has been going on since governments first came into being. It will happen to you Americans too if you don't keep up the fight (and has already happened in NY,CA and Washington DC) .

The Benchmade 5000 looks like a very nice knife. I suppose most of us will have to settle for the non-auto version if we want one. Just another example of a 100% totally, supercalafragilistically useless law.

[soa]

If memory serves the English Bill of Rights of 1688 guaranteed the right to keep and bear arms, not just for the nobles.
It has been said that Great Britian lies in Flander`s field. It lost its gene pool. This is when the govt. quit trusting its subjects. Only the dregs of society were left.


There's a phrase often used. "Back under your bridge, boy".
It suggests you are a troll.
Do you not think that starting off with a remark like that *might* be interpreted as offensive?

Actually, I doubt that you do.



Both in WW1 and WW11 you had 20% of your population in uniform. That is two generations lost. All but the rich were disarmed by WW11, and we sent you weapons.


Actually, you *sold* us loads, which is why the UK is still regarded as a pretty large aircraft carrier for you. You also ensured that our entire industry was devoted to war, and put inspectors here to ensure that industry was devoted to war, while your was able to remain focus on post war contracts (not too dissimilar to the commercial approach you've followed ever after.


Some you sent back, but many were lost. Next time, I am not giving you any of my spares.


Give?


Only The UK is left.
England made great guns, much coveted in the U.S[snip]
That left with the empire.


And who ensured that we had to give up the Empire?



I do not wish to be an ugly American here, but gee whiz, you are bringing this upon yourselves.


Failed on every count then.


I am a Marshal. We certainly do not have hot burgleries here. Everybody is armed. That would be suicide.


Absolutley untrue. By no means is everybody armed. Many are. Which is, of course, one reason why you have so many more deaths from firearms than we do - and no, it ain't just baddies, it is kids who are killed by their parents incompetence at managing firearms. Your country is immeasurably vaster than ours, with only two states having anything like our population density. The pressure of having about 20% of your population in 3% of your space... is high. Which is why, historically, the English were polite. Things change.
Most of *our* firearms crime is BG on BG - mostly drug related AFAICR. This is a side effect of us siding with our best friends in their "War" on drugs. Which, FWIW, you have been losing ever since you started it. To be fair, it wasn't helped by agents of your government funding their illegal activities in many countries by assisting in the drug trade.



My latest knife is a Bench Made Axis Auto 5000, just to justify this post.
If I am out of line, I regret the perception. I am a guest here.
We have pretty much gotten along since the war of 1812.

My latest is an Al Mar SERE2000; don't like it quite as much as my BM710.
You are more than welcome here as a guest. I felt welcome in your country when I lived in KC,Mo. and when I visted the West Coast - and in Connecticut.

Many of us are happy to support our American cousins in fighting terrorism. Some of us wish you had come to this earlier and stopped murderous thugs raising money to bomb our cities rather earlier than you did. But then, the IRA were political as some of your judiciary saw it.

Incidentally, we don't have to love GWB to support America; we have aristocracy of our own to be offended about without needing to worry about your vatsly rich influence buying, service avoiding families (the Bushes, Kennedys, Clintons...) [OK, JFK actually served]

undeleted as I really couldn't leave this to go on unanswered...

[bagman]

I am going to keep a very close eye on this thread and will lock it down in a blink of said device if it gets out of hand.

I do not want this turning into one of the many "us against them/the whole world" threads ala Bladeforums. They are one of the reasons I visit there very rarely now (that and the fact that out site is flippin brill :D )

play nicely children or I'll take the ball away (rugby ball of course ;) )

[keith_beef]

I am a Marshal. We certainly do not have hot burgs or B&E`s here. Everybody is armed. That would be suicide.

Bully for you, Ghostsix. What is a Marshal?

But what's a "hot burg"? What's a "B&E"?



Most of *our* firearms crime is BG on BG


I take it "BG" means "Black Guys", referring to the explosion in Yardie cocaine gangs over the last couple of years...


Keith.

[soa]

The Bill of Rights guaranteed nothing. We have no Constitution so the government is free to trample on our rights and freedoms as it sees fit.

Whatever.

[bagman]

Steve - check your PM's

[Ross]

Keith - I think BG simply refers to 'Bad Guy' rather than the race thing...much simpler.

Ross

[keith_beef]

Keith - I think BG simply refers to 'Bad Guy' rather than the race thing...much simpler.

Ross

Maybe you're right. I'd read so many articles in teh Guardian lately, about "black on black" violence in Bristol and London, that I thought this was the Yardies again.

Keith.

[Danzo]

Just to provide backup for my fellow online LEO Bagman, please don't let this descend into a series of diatribes. It is important to remember that what restricts one persons freedom may provide security and peace of mind to another. We are not necessarily in the right, we have an opinion. Others have every right to disagree. THAT is freedom.

Danzo

[Colin KC]

We should celebrate our differences.

& embrace our similarities. personal & political!

[Dave Barker]

......snip.......I lived in Manchester for many,many years. The majority of our shootings were intra-gang.

Sorry to rain on the parade, but isn't this Britsh BLADES... i personally have never seen anyone shot with a knife.

[soa]

FFS, I am trying to keep this non political.
I think that it might be easier if I take a deep breath, delete my last couple of posts in this thread, and not post further in this thread.
As a suggestion to the mods, could we perhaps suggest that differences in the legal position of CCW etc. between Britain and the USA be ruled off topic.
I weary of trying to provide a polite way to suggest to some people that one size doesn't fit all.

[Danzo]

Hi soa

I still think there is plenty of scope for discussion but the tendancy for all contributors, myself included, to fall into the 'rant mode' is a factor of the immediacy of the internet and our understandable desire to express an opinion on important issues.We have here a place which serves most of us very well, most of the time. The desire to keep things from descending into the venom and animosity of other sites is something to be avoided IMHO. As the General has said in another post today, this is a great place which reflects a level of discourse unusual in any forum. We are lucky to have this place, and maintaining what would, in an older world many of us long for, be called 'standards' is I believe a small price to pay.

Danzo

[JORVIK]

Has anybody seen the movie " Bowling for Columbine". At the beginning it shows the amount of people killed by guns in a year. In the UK it was about 170
In the USA it was 17,500.........enuff said :biggthump

[Martyn]

Wow, I think the mere mention of that film with have half the NRA down our throusts screaming what a pile of BS the film was. I personally liked it, and felt it made some excellent points, but it was presented with a very, very strong bias, which was nothing short of propoganda. I agreed with much of it, but it was less than objective.

Anyway, take care people - ghostsix (and all Americans, please understand that our little island has a very different culture to the US. We speak the same language, but we have very differnt backgrounds and very different politics. It will always be a source of conflict. Threads like these will get locked in a heartbeat if they are handles with anything less than rational, rant free discussions. The rules in the forum say that this is off topic, these threads exist on the tolerance of the moderators. beware,. ;)

[JORVIK]

Sorry Martyn :D :D :D ...but I just couldn't resist it.
I don't think our American Cousins realise what a none issue firearms are over here, or that knife people in the UK are not interested in guns generally.
I think that the current firearms rules here are too restrictive..and indeed the knife laws. But having said that, I am generally happy with my lot. we have a good social security system ( which does get abused :mad: ) and a generally good health care system ( I have had major surgery in the past year and was pleased with the level of care that I recieved.....and my wife has gone back to nursing :biggthump )
I wouldn't like to live in the US. I don't want a gun, I don't want them in general circulation.....I quite enjoy these little excersions away from knife talk.......in the UK mere possession of a firearm is a 2 year gaol time offence ( notice that I used the ENGLISH spelling of "jail"....how coool am I :cool: ).....
but even an auto won't get you more than a £50 fine unless there is more to the offence.
There is some cause for worry among us knife collecting folk and that is there does seem to be a lot of offences committed with knives lately....stupid,brutal, motivesless stabbings that result in fatalities. So I can only hope it doesn't go that way for our little fraternity.

[Martyn]

So I can only hope it doesn't go that way for our little fraternity.

It wont JORVIK, count on it. ;)

[Danzo]

Can everybody take a step back and breathe in deeply please.

Ghostsix, you make a number of interesting and valid points, however you also are understandably unaware of the way we approach certain issues in this country and within these forums. I hope you will review the whole site and accept how we do things, as your contributions are welcome.
In this forum, dealing with British knife law, we discourage posts which do not attempt to add to our sum of knowledge and we deal abruptly with any post that is purely invective.

I am sure you will respect how we do things here.

:thanks:

Danzo

[ghostsix]

I did review your site before I posted. The first rule is to know the situation, enemy and friendly.
We are largly friendly. We talk to your MI 5 and 6, and we have officer Mil and Nav exchange programs which get reported back to me.
I probably know more about your 22 th. Regt., SAS than you do.

Stay safe cuz.

[ghostsix]

A hot burg is when someone is home. A B& E is breaking and entering. A BG is a bad guy, or perp.
Marshal`s are our oldest Constitutional law enforcement agency.
The were apointed by congress and courts.
Originally the were servants of a court. They serve warrants and generaly do a court`s bidding.
As time went on there were township Marshal`s, which is me, and other constabulary reffered to as Marshals.

[ghostsix]

I beg the pardon of anyone who I may have offended. It is certainly not my intent.
LEOS and soldiers swear a solum oath to the U.S.C.A.
If one enters the trade of a govt. Agent, or one of its subdivisions, he probably thinks that he is doing the right thing.

[ghostsix]

Please elucidate me. I do not know that you cannot speak freely. Is this the case?

[soa]

I probably know more about your 22 th. Regt., SAS than you do.

:lmao:

[ghostsix]

I know that it is a priveldge to be a member here. And I hope to be a good member. However, you know that this path has its perils. Martyn made me a member; perhaps against his better judgment now.
But what is wrong with a freash view?
I read Winston Churchill`s books. This is the England that I like to think of; Agincourt, Shakespear, Drake and Nelson.
Adam Smith, Hobbs, Locke and others.
We founded our social experment on the ideas of your thinkers.

[keith_beef]

..snip..
our little island has a very different culture to the US. We speak the same language, but we have very differnt backgrounds and very different politics.
..snip..


Was it Winston Churchill who said that the British and the Americans are two people separated by a common language?


Keith.

[keith_beef]

A hot burg is when someone is home. A B& E is breaking and entering. A BG is a bad guy, or perp.
Marshal`s are our oldest Constitutional law enforcement agency.
The were apointed by congress and courts.
Originally the were servants of a court. They serve warrants and generaly do a court`s bidding.
As time went on there were township Marshal`s, which is me, and other constabulary reffered to as Marshals.

Thanks for clearing that up.

I wasn't sure if "burg" was an abbreviation of "burglary", or if it meant "town".


Keith.

[ghostsix]

Actualy, we are two peoples sepreatated by a common language; as Churchill said.
So, it will take a bit of extra effort to understand each other.
This is not unreasonable, we need to understand each other.

[ghostsix]

We also call a burg a 415 because that is where it is found in the Penal Code here, commonly called PC. There is a VC, (Vehical Code) , of course. There is also a Health and Safety code which covers drugs and other things.
Acronyms can be onerous. I will try not to use them.
Being a cop today is a lot more than a fast gun hand.

[ghostsix]

As I understand the rules; we can discuss legal points but not bad mouth your govt.
Well I can bad mouth mine without being considered some kind of a commie.
I see no reason, or dichotomy between being a loyal American and disagreeing with some govt. policy.
I guess that this is what some members mean when they say there are cultural differences.
We have a deep distrust of govt. The more you know the deeper the distrust. I have a Top Secrete Clearance with a compartmentalized sensitive information clearance.
I know what happened.
Govt. is more of a cause of problems than a soloution to them.
We need govt., but it is like fire; a useful servant, but a fearfull master.

[Martyn]

Please elucidate me. I do not know that you cannot speak freely. Is this the case?

As Danzo said, there's a difference between speeking freely and being purely invective. One thing you need to understand, is that we dont allow our government to walk over us, we never have. But we have a very different cultural view towards gun ownership for example. There are very few Brits who could give two hoots about guns. The vast majority of us would rather not have them in general circulation - which they are not. We dont live in fear of being shot, the majority of criminals are not armed and neither are the majority of our police. I think we are the last major western power to have an unarmed police force - we're pretty proud of that. Britain is a safe place to live.

I'm also lairy of people who like to tell me how this site should be run, how we should be doing this, or how we should be persuing that cause. AFAIK, this is the first & the only UK knife site. That's because I was interested enough to get off my ass and make one. If it's stand up and be counted, I'm standing and I'm being counted, as the owner and creator of the only British knife site, that should be clear. This site will do it's bit, by educating those who are interested enough to look, that we are not paramilitary knife loonies, one breath away from graloching their children, but that we are on the whole, mature, responsible, professional entheusiasts. Then hopefully, the closet entheusiasts will feel less marginalised, and come out of the closet (there are 54 people online at the moment, 17 members and 37 guests). Once they see that they are not alone, that there are others who enjoy blades, collecting and making them, they will be empowered. This site will grow, and those individuals will have the confidence to speak out. This is what I'm doing here.

This will also be ruined at the outset, if the publics fears are realised, and they see that sites like this are havens for aggressive, angry, paramilitary, arms enthusiats. To become politically millitant, would be to use the one and only British knife interest forum, to prove the publics fears right.

To those people who think we should be using our one voice to go fight a cause, I say dont tell me what we should be doing, ask yourself what are you going to do. Instead of ranting, do what I did, get off yer backside and go do something about it. Create the second British knife interest forum, make it as politically active as you like. I may even join your cause, just dont sit in your armchair, asking me or BritishBlades, to fight your fight for you - I'm already up to my neck in it, are you?

This site, will not play host to political activity, for the reasons mentioned. Freedom of speach is important, of course it is, but I place a higher priority on this site staying on track, than your percieved rights to say what you please anywhere you like. While I pay the rent, you are in my virtual living room, and sorry, but that means you have to respect the house rules. If ya dont, I'll kick yer ass out the front door.

Now, who's for a cup of tea? ;)

Regards,
Martyn.

[bagman]

Now, who's for a cup of tea? ;)

Regards,
Martyn.

Tea, pah girls drink ;)

[Martyn]

As I understand the rules; we can discuss legal points but not bad mouth your govt.
Well I can bad mouth mine without being considered some kind of a commie.
I see no reason, or dichotomy between being a loyal American and disagreeing with some govt. policy.


No, you miss the point, it's about being smart. Sabre rattling is just going to kill our cause before it starts. This is what you dont understand about the Brtitish people. A site full of angry-heads, raging against the machine, will just prove the nay-sayers right in the eyes of the public and marginalise us further. The British public like to be educated with common sense, humour and mature rhetoric. That's what we like too.

Cask Lagavulin then Baggy? It's a little early for me, but if you insist... ;)

[bagman]

Cask Lagavulin then Baggy? It's a little early for me, but if you insist... ;)

I was thinking about coffee actually :rolleyes:

I dont drink whiskey, port however :bandit:

[ghostsix]

I guess that I can`t expect to understand across the pond, even though I have two degrees in Hist and Phil. and an MA. from a pretty good school. And our armed convoy escorts, even before 7 Dec.1941, made it possible for you to survive the U-Boat blockade.
The RN got some bad press recently about leaving about a thousand Bismark survivors in the water to die. I agree with the CAPT`s decision under the circumstances.
In the same article LTC Morton, USN, a sub CAPT. machine gunned the survivors of the Buyo Maru troop transport that he sank with a torpedo.
Now I understand this and agree with his decision.
The drawing of fine distinctions about degrees of moral fault is great for philosophers but is dangerous if it detracts from the mission.
We also got the press about the farmer who killed one burg perp and wounded the other with a shotgun that he had not surrendered. Here, we would say atta boy. There, he served more time than the surviving BG. The Crown opposed his parol on the grounds that he was a threat to burglars. The laughter of a US court would ring down the halls.
I do not know if you still take sides in your civil wars, but the right of sesession was dictated by force here and about half the population do not support the federalists.
They would be called Anti Federalists.
If this is too much, just delete it. I will understand.
You have been kind to me and I do not wish to abuse your hospilality.
I know that you are treading on thin ice by having a knife site in the UK. And I wish you no harm; or to draw unwanted govt. attention to your worthy endevor. As you are the only one, I suppose MI5 has a spare agent to monitor your site. He will be surprised and put in his place if he checks me out. My agency does not take kindly to that.
The only way to get my govts. attention is to have a Senator rattle a sabre. That is why I maintain good relations with my representives. Our politics are based upon threats, extortion, conspiracy and coercion. I suspect that yours are the same.
Feel free to delete this post if you feel that that it would be against your interests.
Perhaps we should not impose our ideas on others when we have not fixed basic hunger in our own land. But, we have the weapons. Those who don`t do not count. That is Realpolitic my friend. Enough about that. It is going nowhere anyway. You can run your land anyway you want to. It is none of our business. If we do not like the laws where we are we can move to a more agreeable state or try to change them where we are.

So let us get back to blades. Thanks for the advice on capturing pics off of the internet. What I wanted to do was scan some blades to post from my computer. Over 50 yrs. I have some nice ones. Some have your broad arrow acceptance mark.Perhaps our systems are incompatible.

[soa]

...I have two degrees in Hist and Phil. and an MA. from a pretty good school.


...As you are the only one, I suppose MI5 has a spare agent to monitor your site. He will be surprised and put in his place if he checks me out. My agency does not take kindly to that.


...The only way to get my govts. attention is to have a Senator rattle a sabre. That is why I maintain good relations with my representives.

:tapedshut

[ghostsix]

When Bush was in England, the cops looked prety well armed to me.
I would say packing an MP-5 is pretty well armed. Not to mention the sidearms.

[bagman]

When Bush was in England, the cops looked prety well armed to me.
I would say packing an MP-5 is pretty well armed. Not to mention the sidearms.

When our Police openly carry firearms they usually carry both a SMG/long arm and a pistol. Visible deterent comes into play here I think as most of the Police you see like this are on Airport security, they dont all walk round like that.

[ghostsix]

In my experiance, most knife crimes are commited with common kitchen knives.
We do not have any expensive or custom knives or guns in the evidence locker.

[French Kiss]

Hello everybody!

I'm late on this one... but I second Jorvik's point of view. I feel ok with the french laws as they are, those are pretty close to the ones in application in UK.

By the way, without wanting to add oil on the fire, Bowling for colombine is biased, but not as much as the arguments NRA people commonly use to justify their behavior.
I already had long long conversation with some of them, just to find out that they would consider things much differently if they were looking at things in their real context, and not out of it, so it looks simplistic and subject to manipulation.
A bit more of knowledge in History and international sociology in the education would do great as well...
Why always consider people by being friendly or enemy, why not just beings who are able of the best or the worst like the rest of us?

Sorry if it sounds out the place on this forum (I promise I won't do it again, Master... :) )

--Xavier

[bagman]

Sorry if it sounds out the place on this forum (I promise I won't do it again, Master... :) )

--Xavier

Bad Xavier, how dare you stir up trouble :rolleyes: ;)

[ghostsix]

A fraudumentry. Moore has been discredited.

[Danzo]

Ghostsix

Thank you for your considered reply earlier in the thread. To reiterate my own earlier point, we have plenty of scope for debate but our intention and hope is to be a reasoned and intelligent forum to discuss our hobby, and of course the peripheral issues which arise from it, without becoming the invective led type of forum that exists elsewhere. I think that French Kiss brings some wise words to this discussion; merci Xavier. However anything that remotely resembles trollish behaviour will be met with swift and awful retribution.

Trust me, I'm a lawyer.

Now, pints of Old Speckled Hen all round methinks?

:approve:

Danzo

[boaty]

Trust me, I'm a lawyer.

Danzo

:yikes: It's not often you see those two phrases in the same sentence...

[Kevin]

Ghostsix



Now, pints of Old Speckled Hen all round methinks?

:approve:

Danzo

For our fellow American and other European cousins.....Speckled Hen is a make of strong beer...just in case anyone was wondering :)

[JORVIK]

PlEEEEEEAse :rolleyes: " Bishops finger" or "owd Rodger"......speckled Hen is a drink for fornicators and wastrels ( and Lawyers :D :D )

[Danzo]

JORVIK

You know already that I am the worst of all things; the unholy trinity of wastrel, fornicator and lawyer.

Why do you think I was chosen as a Moderator?

And I **** on your Bishops finger :rolleyes: :wink: :D :biggthump

:bandit:


Danzo

[bagman]

Speckled Hen is a make of strong beer...just in case anyone was wondering :)

went for a visit round the Moorlands brewery in Abingdon a dozen or so years aog with lots of free tasters :biggthump

[Colin KC]

PlEEEEEEAse :rolleyes: " Bishops finger" or "owd Rodger"......speckled Hen is a drink for fornicators and wastrels ( and Lawyers :D :D )


& bearded weirdo's with thirty year old angorra sweaters;)

[bagman]

Colin - how far are you from Sheaperd Neame?'s gaff?

[Colin KC]

about 15 miles;)

[ghostsix]

If the law is on your side; bang the law book.
If the law is against you; bang the table.

[Danzo]

If the lawyer is cute,
Bang the lawyer.

:wink:

Danzo

[bagman]

If the lawyer is cute,
Bang the lawyer.

:wink:

Danzo

:lmao: I nearly woke the baby laughing at that one Dan

[Roger Gregory]

If the lawyer is cute,
Bang the lawyer.

:wink:

Danzo

Mmm, there are some rather cute lawyers. I should start stalking one.

Roger

[Danzo]

Why, hush your mouth Big Boy!

:27:

:smlove2:

Darlin' Danzo

[ghostsix]

Good on you Dan.

[The General]

Are you the infamous Ghostsix of Bladeforums and Knifeforums?

[ODS]

Ghost6,

The fellows here know that I listen and watch and answer threads normally with a un-biased opinion. Looking at this from a 3rd person point of view from both sides.

I am American just as you are. I live in both the US and the UK. How we see things in the US and the way it is seen in the UK is two different things. I know very little about the UK politics or the way most of it works. What I do know is through common sense and just listening to others talk. It is the best way to learn somethings in life. Reading them from a book or hearing speeches or lessons upon things just doesn't do the same as a few months here will do.

The UK is very strict upon it's policies as many have mentioned here over and over. The UK is small compared to the US and even a smaller % have a interest in guns or knives. For this group here it is knives. For most in the UK it's how to just be safe. This is the reason such laws were developed. If there is no fire..then there is no smoke... if there is no smoke then there is no trouble.

Politics, Gun Laws, and other off topic matter is something that is tried to be avoided as much as possible here. There will always be a conflict of interest between the societies on these topics. We are a group of people from many different cultures, backgrounds, upbringings, and beliefs. Rants will happen and they will become out of control. As a group here we only know mainly about each other through post and emails. Such topics can leave a bad taste in anothers mouths if something is taken the wrong way. This is one of the reasons the moderators discourage such post, I think. For those that lurk they may also not enter into threads as they may feel as though they will be critized for their views and opinions. Yet these lurkers may have valuable insight on other things more related to this forum, yet never share it....some see such threads as this one a hassle, they have their first opinions and then leave not to return.

This is a place that the users come to learn about their hobby and other outdoor activities. It is a source of knowledge. While you may say what you are providing is knowledge, it is, but the way you are providing it is not becoming in my opinion.

As far as boasting your knowledge of things such as your clearance level, your knowledge of the SAS, and other factors. Becareful how bright you shine yourself.. you could rub a hole that others will see right through you.

I to held top secret clearance levels at one time. Worked directly with the DEA, DOD, and DOT.. I know what info is given and I know who it is given to. I know the rolls of a Marshal. For the SAS... many of them here in this group will surprise you on their knowledge of this ellite squad. I to may even surprise you on such since I'm sitting in the SAS hometown area and my fiance' is Serving British Military.

So the point of this all is you may wish to back down on the subject at hand and leave it where it is at this time. Return to normal discussions on which torch (flashlight) to buy or what's the newest way to temper a knife blade, as this is what this forum is made for. Not to find those wanting to rise again the goverment and override the knife and gun laws of this country or any other country.

Though on a final note. You may like to hear that in the recent weeks it has been talked about that some of the police here in the UK be given guns for EDC. Yet most of the population frowns upon this. Looking at it as if the police here are to carry guns, then the people that do commit crimes, will also have to better protect themselves with carrying a weapon as well, rather than just a knife, which only causes more problems. Creating a snow ball effect.



Cheers,
ODS

[reggad]

Many wise words said in the last few posts - I know I'm prone to rant over legal issues myself, as I fear erosion of civil liberties (re-my hobby), and also can relate (as I have pointed out in previous posts) with the pro-gun lobby and their harsh experiences with the law. However, I have to agree with the moderators posts on the aim of this site, and do not think that qouting previous military mistakes, or flexing dubious (clearly not that) undercover military credentials (spot-on comment about not digging a hole others will see through, by the way!) is really in the spirit of the forum. I do not intend to demean our American cousin in any way, as I'm sure he knows his stuff, and comes out with some interesting points; but the way I look at it, despite any of my anti-gov't rhetoric, is that we have "the worst legal sytem in the world, apart from all the others", if you pardon the pun. Hey lets face it at least we are allowed to actually have discussions such as this, and I'm sure most of you would agree that, despite some miscarriages of justice, you'd rather be infront of a British court should the worst happen, than many of the others around the world.
Ooops, am falling into politcal rant mode myself, but needed to get that off my chest, anyway enough politics lets talk Knives :D

[ghostsix]

LEO`S all pay attenten to decisions that affect us. I just learned of one today, over beers.
While I have reminded you of precedent that came from you, I have no interest on how you do things today.
Let us talk knives.

[ghostsix]

As I have said, I am the one, the only and the original ghostsix from RVN onwards.
ADM. Ramadge is Jig Dog.
We are supposed to use say, N2999T or KKX0836. Or an assigned call sign.
Ragged is paraphrasing Churchill, who was run out for his views when he was no longer needed.
I an drawing an 06 pension, so I must have done something right.

I have a couple of Axis locks from BM.
I do not really see how these could disengage. However, there is a discussion about it.
Politics is hard not to deal with; for thinking people, yet many do not vote or deal with it at all.
You have a right to let others decide your future as well.
I am just not ready to turn over that authority.

[ghostsix]

We did, and still do, both support and fight the drug trade.
It does not make much sense to me either.
There were some understandable agreements of convienience that are well known now.

[reggad]

Howdy ghostsix, as it goes I wasn't paraphrasing Churchill (never thought I'd be accused of that one!), as I am able to make up potentially offensive rants all on my own (as my missus would agree,doh!). Anyway, now I've cleared that up I think I'll retire ( without an 06 pension!?!) from this particular thread's discussion, as I get the sneaking suspicion that we ain't gonna get on. Nuff said,
Agent reggad signing-off KFC499 :wink: :D

[ghostsix]

Roger that. Old Winnie said some good stuff. I recommend his work.
I see no reason that we would not get along.
What the heck, it is only a discussion and we are not in range anyway.
Cheers.

[reggad]

Trust me it's for the best, I've only just found this valuable resource of a website, and don't want to get thrown off. Much as I would love a political debate with you in a different situation this isn't really the place for it. Besides, you deal with bad guys in America for a living, whereas I specialise in stubbornly arguing the point (and generally winning) with fellow Brit's who possess a sense of irony, so you wouldn't really be fair game. Anyway I must get back to my depleted gene pool to polish my brolly and bolar hat!!

[The General]

I lived in Hereford for 2 years and had *some* contact with 22 Regiment. This was something no one talks about. I will say no more.

[ghostsix]

I have a right to know whether your troopers can stand up.
Or are they going to be wellfare freaks.

[ghostsix]

There is no reason that we cannot "get on".
An odd use of the language, but what the heck?

[ghostsix]

Plus, I do admire the 18th. Cent. Brit upper lip. Although I am Norsk.
The pistol, or knife, comes out, and the decision is made.
Only one will walk away.

[reggad]

If that's the best comment you can come up with after two days thinking time ghostsix, then I rest my case. Sayonara, cos this is (definately) the last time I will bother responding to you, no matter how derisive or personally offensive your comments may become.
Yours sincerely, reggad (registered "welfare freak", and proud of it, since you apparently have a right to know that!)

[ghostsix]

Very well, If so say you all, I shall not darken your door again.
That is my final word on the matter.
I await the decision of the moderater.
I do not mean to push a colflict, However, Martyn has the power, you do not.
If some of you think that I have some value, then you will reflect that.
If you cannot stand the light of day, or me, so should you say.
Some will like a breath of fresh air. Some will abhore it.
Some like Thatcher and some Blair.
I am curious myself.
Can you oppose when all are against you? Can you stand steadfast?
Just who are you anyway? You used to be better.
This has been the problem of Brits and Brit blades, no guts.
Ban me; it won`t change the reality.
You need people like me.
Martyn, not everybody is satisied with an antique 3" slip blade that will fold up on your fingers..
Where have you been since 1964?
There was a time. Pilots with 2 hrs. in type shot down ME 109`s and FW 190`s.
I do not know that anyone will see the Battle of Britian agan
Never have so few done so much.

[ghostsix]

Raggad, as a self proclaimed welfare recipient, I think that I will wait for someone with more stake in the society to make the decision.
In my world you do not count.

[PS_Bond]

Ghostsix -

I refer you to the forum rules & guidelines: http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8444#post8444

SPECIFICALLY:



7 Flaming:
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Lay off, stop troling and quit the infantile bragging - if you really were what you claim to have been, you wouldn't be talking about it.

[The General]

Some people just ought to keep their opinions to themselves :rolleyes: Trolls will not be tolerated! I feel a ban about to happen... :rolleyes:

[Slidje]

ive not seen a gun since they were banned. all that springs to my mind when i think about them being banned is thank god.
any society that actually needs guns has serious problems.

sure any country has its paranoid fools, cowering in fear from newspaper statistics, afraid to go outside from fear of attrack , afraid to go home from fear of burgulary, afraid to fall asleep from fear of a break-in.
let me assure you these people are in the minority and i am not among them. just give me a knife and a tinfoil hat hahaha