Surefire questions for those that know...

[Martyn]

Recently got an L6 which I love. I want to use it as a vehicle light and was thinking on how to enable it with the greatest of options as weight is not an issue. I was thinking about adding an a19 extender to make it a 4 cell light, this should allow me to use 2x pilla rechargables.

My questions..

Anyone know if a HA version of the A19 adapter is available - either Surefire or 3rd party?

Can the L6 be driven with 12V without harm?

Can the regular M3 head be bought as a standalone item?

Basically, what I want is to have a lego set torch, that will convert from M3, L6 and M4, offering everything from 80 lumen LED upto 500 lumen incan and a whole bunch in between, that can be driven on either standard 123A's or Pilla rechargeables.

[ODS]

Martyn,
the M3 bezel can be bought seperate. Surefire sells all the parts seperate except for the body itself.

The A19 as far as I know is BK only..no HA..I'm not aware of any 3rd party that makes this piece. If I ever hear back from D. Speck I'll see if he can machine such a animal as it would be ideal for the application you are wanting...though it may also be such a large task that it may be more trouble than worth as well.

As far as the 12v on the L6 that I have no clue..the guru's over on CPF though should be able to answer that for you. It may work, but no way of knowing a long term effect would have on the LED...It may burn for 10k hours or it may burn for 10 minutes.

cheers,
Joe

[Kakster]

As far as i know, there is only 1 A19-HA3 in existence here (http://www.pk-engineering.com/Size15/images1/SureFire%20A2%20M2-A19-HA%2064.jpg) . Its only available in black through regular channels.

The KL6 bezel runs fine off 12v...mine is run exclusively on my M4. You get a very useful 2hrs+ of regulation, then a much longer/brighter moonmode. You can also run it with 2xPila 168s, which is very handy.

Yes, the M3 bezel can be ordered, but a word of warning. The new M3 bezel (part number Z46) has a crenelated "impact" bezel, which might be seen as an offensive weapon. Perhaps one of the law-type members might like to add their views here.
http://www.pk-engineering.com/McGizmo/M3/M3.jpg
CPF discussion about this subject here (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=533774&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=365&fpart=all)

Best thing to do IMHO, is to keep an eye out on the B/S/T forum on CPF. There are bound to be a few people wanting to get rid of their old-style bezels after getting a new one.
Of course, you can always speak to Joe.
*Doh, there his now, beat me to the draw :twak: *

[ODS]

accually the M3 bezel you are talking about and shown above is a limited run from my understanding... M3P I believe is the name for it P standing for "porcupine"... I just received in two M3's last week and they are both the normal version.

If you was to sharpen the tips then you may call it a weapon...where as it is now it would only due a bit more bruise damage at the points, but not cut into the skin unless a tremedous amount of weight was put behind it.

If anything you can set the torch down for a minute or so without worrying that it will overheat and blow the bulb as the cutouts would act as a vent for the heat.

cheers,
Joe

[Kakster]

Im pretty sure theyre gonna be the standard bezel for the Millenium series, until the next update. In the catalogue, with the exception of the M2, they all have the crenelated bezels, even the M6 "Guardian". They look butt fugly IMO.
I hope you are right about them being limited run only.

[Size15s]

M3P is etched with "Police" and is not for US retail but for HK only I believe. I don't have a lot more I can say about this though.

The crenelated M3 and Millennium TurboHeads are the standard style for all models including WeaponLights using these bezels.

The KL6 can be used on the M4 and M6 bodies.

The KL5 can NOT be used on three SF123A models such as the C3.

I hope this helps?

Al

[Martyn]

I hope this helps?

Al

It does indeed Al, thanks. But what would be a Huuuuuuggggggeeeee help is spilling the beans on where you got that "only one in existance" HA3 A19 extender in Ka's link? ;)

Been thinking about the 4-cell option, and am I right in thinking that the regular M3 head uses different LA's to the M4, but the M3 turbo head uses the same (format) LA's? What I mean is, if I get a turbo head, will I be able to use 12v lamps with an A19, as well as 9v lamps without the A19 without getting another head? Or will the regular M3 head accept 12v lamps from the M4?

I'm not much for the turbo head and would rather just have the regular M3, but if it limits my options to 9v lamps only, I think i'd be better off with the turbo head.

[ODS]

I wonder if you was to get the A19 and strip it down with a wirebrush and then send it to someone like D speck when he does his next batch of adapters if it would be possible to have that added into it for a fee.

Just a thought that passes between my ears.

cheers,
Joe

[Kakster]

Just another thought...all the parts your talking about arent exactly cheap. when you add it all up, Turbohead, A19, couple of lamps, its not that much less than an M6...

[Size15s]

I found the A19-HA on PK's desk when I visited SureFire and asked if I could have it (and when he said no, I stole it when he wasn't looking ;) )

The Lamps Assemblies for the TurboHeads are different to those of the M3.

M3 = MN10 & MN11 - three SF123A's
M3T = MN15 & MN16 (TurboHead) - three SF123A's (N2 can also be used)
M4 = MN60 & MN61 (TurboHead) - four SF123A's (N62 can also be used)

Only use lamp assemblies with the correct number of batteries.

Al