Autumn damascus-in at bush fire forge

[owen bush]

I shall be having another forge-in in october the provisional dates being the weekend of the 20th and 21st .I am still a little unsure of the format that this will take and I would like to if possable get a guest along who could teach me a thing or two .
there will as usual be lots of forges available and I have been given some good thin band saw steel by banjo bill that will mix amazingly with 15n20 so there will be some easy to make damascus steel at hand .
my curent thoughts are that I am not happy with people who are unsure of power hammers using them especialy If I have my big hammer going.but we shall see .
I shall be charging a fee to cover expences fuel steel etc It is likly to be more than last time due to the more expensive and fuel intensive process of making paternwelded steel .
more to come as the thoughts make them self more clear in my head .
I am sure it will be a laugh and an informative weekend of metal bashing .

Edit I have set the fee at £40 this will include food saterday eve .

[pennillion]

Owen, if you can use bandsaw blades, do you want me to save the ones from the big saws at work ?

I only throw them in the scrap bin when they break....we dont bother welding them, just fit a new one.

No problem if you dont want them though mate:)

[owen bush]

If you could save em I'm sure someone would use em .If they etch shiney they are probably 15n20 and in that case they would be great for hammerin steel .

[pennillion]

If you could save em I'm sure someone would use em .If they etch shiney they are probably 15n20 and in that case they would be great for hammerin steel .I will save them until i know if they are good for you and the rest. I could send you a 6" length maybe to see if you think its suitable.

I will check the packing as well....it may have info on the steel.

[Ratel10mm]

I'll put the date in my diary mate! :D

[Hepotec]

Sounds good to me.

[Singeblister]

I would love to come , but I doubt I will make it , have to see how things are near the time :)

[Mick Maxen]

Owen, sounds good to me as well, I shall see you there.

Mick.

[Underhay]

I'll be there Owen :)

[nickg]

I'll definately be there. If its anything like as good as the last one it'll be brilliant.

Cheers
Nick

[MushiSushi]

definitely ;)

[one_rod]

Put me and Tom down as a "Yes".


one_rod.

[JJH]

I'll be along want to borrow a forge and anvil? Though think you may have enough grinders

[Colin KC]

Me too!

[richard ball]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I am at sea for this one tis not fair. Not fair I tell you. :(

[owen bush]

I had a word with mastersmith Jim Jackson today and he sounded interested in coming I am going to contact anybody/everybody I can think of who is into interested in damascus to come along I'll try and get a little new blood into the mix .

[MushiSushi]

mmmm new blood ... and a chianti


fufufufufufufffff

[rik]

I have myself interested, and from my photos last time and from your last hammer-in, I've go tup to 6 other who want to come along to a hammer-in :)

[Mick Maxen]

If you twist my arm enough, I might be up for doing a demo. What would people like to see.

Mick.

[JJH]

I'd like to see how various patterns are made & different peoples way of forging the billet eg owen welds under the powerhammer & you use a hand hammer.

[owen bush]

If you twist my arm enough, I might be up for doing a demo. What would people like to see.

Mick.

Cool ,
I'd better start twisting !!I'd like to see a bit of mozaic ,but as jjh said we work so diferently that even similar demos would be quite diferent .
we shall have to have a chat about it!!

[sc_barker]

i should be able to make it down for this so hopefully see you all then and i can learn something new.

[Wayne D]

damn i'll be in the States then ! oh well I'll just have to make myself a forge out in the desert and play on my own :D

[Martyn]

I hope you dont mind Owen, but I've changed the thread title from "fall damascus-in at bush fire forge" to "Autumn damascus-in at bush fire forge" ...because I'm British and these imported American terms confuse me. :P :lol:

[jdm61]

Dang.....I'm going to be over there from September 20th-October 1st. Guess i will have to catch the next one:( Owen....are you going to SICAC?

[MushiSushi]

I hope you dont mind Owen, but I've changed the thread title from "fall damascus-in at bush fire forge" to "Autumn damascus-in at bush fire forge" ...because I'm British and these imported American terms confuse me. :P :lol:

wouldn't let me give you rep for that!! got to spread it

[owen bush]

Just out of interest what made you think that i was using the american term "Fall" wich is the continued use of the old english word "Fall"?
it is one of the few americanisms that I really love as it is so evocative and reminds me of walks in the autmn woods ,also its english!!

[rik]

Also helps with watch forwards and back. Spring forwards, fall back.

[meles meles]

*meks ikkle note in diary, starts fonin' round the klan*

[TOBY]

Just be given the ok from the boss - so i can come:D

..I am not under the thumb .... HONEST:ashamed01

[Underhay]

Mick said:

If you twist my arm enough, I might be up for doing a demo. What would people like to see.

Owen said:

I'd better start twisting !!I'd like to see a bit of mozaic ,but as jjh said we work so diferently that even similar demos would be quite diferent .

I think this is the way to go , demonstrations by people who really know what they are doing would be great. If we all try to get a billet going there won't be enough time or space for anyone to achieve much.

You can learn a huge amount watching an expert, and seeing different techniques of achieving the same goal isn't often possible.

By the way Mick, I'd like to see how you manipulate and combine the bars to make some of your spectacular patterns :)

And Owen, how about showing us some of the tricks used to make your swords :D

[meles meles]

Mebbe if us brings along a kupple of bags of diffrent kullered fotons Owen kan mek us a 'maskus light sabre...

[owen bush]

I'll certainly do a demonstration probably a large seax ,with twisted back ,multy layer edge .I could pull this off in a day on my own and probably as a demo with a little "here's what I made earlier" .
I wand to develop a set piece that I can take as a demo and I recon thats the thing to do .
would a 24" seax do Duncan ?
A full sword blade as I do it would be a week + .

[Underhay]

would a 24" seax do Duncan ?

Sounds great to me :D

It's good to have an event like this to look forward to after the summer's gone, and I had no idea the origin of the expression fall was English :)

[Mick Maxen]

Duncan, funny you should mention manipulating and combining bars, as I was thinking along those lines. Making up some bars for a centre core, with twisted and untwisted areas,which I shall make at my place, explain how the bars were made and then do a demo welding them up, and if there is time welding on an edge.
Owen mentioned mosaics, which is not a problem, but will involve using a power hammer and will take quite a time. The way I do them is with bars with the pattern on the end, so it will be a case of forging square, cutting in half, polish and etch the ends to see the pattern, decide how to join them, weld them up and start all over again. Very labour intensive.
Whatever happens and who does what, we shall see but it will be an interesting weekend.

Mick.

[MushiSushi]

sounds like Blue Peter is the only way to go and still fit it in to the time frame

[Merv]

Excellent Owen I've got it in the diary & hoping to be there - how's it going Mick? You at the Edenbridge show??

Cheers

Merv

[PS_Bond]

If Jim's along, should I bring some of his old tools from Windsor? :D

[Mick Maxen]

Merv, are you the cider drinking Merv I know. I hope to be at the Edenbridge Show, not sure about competing at the moment, but it is Jan's last show in charge so I will try to get there on the Monday.

Mick.

[Underhay]

Hi Merv, welcome to the forum :biggthump

[owen bush]

oky doky its time to start the list and build up a little momentum on this one .
two days Damascus with me and mick doing a demo each day I'll provide food on sat eve we'll get a take away curry friday ..gathering on friday eve or sat morn (as per usual) cost not formulated yet but more than last time to cover gas materials etc (probably gonna be in thew region of £30 to 50 quid per head ,I believe it was £25 for the last one and I just broke even on that wich is how I would like to price this one .I dont want to make money on a hammer in but lots of people making damascus will cost .
I am going to have my workshop as a demo space for me and mick and there will be another power hammer in the school for everybody to use under strict supervision .
plenty of forges and grinders I've even got a chemical box for my ferric chloride!! .
so whos in ?

[owen bush]

List for forge in (no obligations )

1 Owen

[TOBY]

List for forge in (no obligations )

1 Owen
2 Toby

[BanjoBill]

List for forge in (no obligations )

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill

[Underhay]

List for forge in (no obligations )

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay

[meles meles]

List for forge in (no obligations )

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)



Us will konfirm attendens as soon as possibubble Owen

[owen bush]

Are you sujesting badgers may be amongst us in ooman form ? cool

[JJH]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH

[Ratel10mm]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm

[Colin KC]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin

[Inspector71]

Was waiting on some other dates to find out if I could make it - and I can't :C

The missus is working abroad and I'm going along "for a holiday" - solo childcare in an unfamiliar city for 10 days - oh joy :lol:

I bet it'll be brilliant - loooots of photos please.

Cheers,
Rod

[jhobson]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson

[nickg]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg

Cheers
Nick

[bardster]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster

[one_rod]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)

[owen bush]

Nice one chaps ,well with my muckers along to that will put us into the 20s or 30 in number .cool.
the place will be a lot better set up than last time so more forges more grinders etc .
i want to have another cutting comp and I'll try and figure out some diferent things to slice on sunday afternoon!!
I'm not interested in limiting blade length or width or materials (mythril alowed!!! also unobtanium!!!) I am interested in seeing what people can come up with or bring along as the ultimate chopper !

[jhobson]

Nice one chaps ,well with my muckers along to that will put us into the 20s or 30 in number .cool.
the place will be a lot better set up than last time so more forges more grinders etc .
i want to have another cutting comp and I'll try and figure out some diferent things to slice on sunday afternoon!!
I'm not interested in limiting blade length or width or materials (mythril alowed!!! also unobtanium!!!) I am interested in seeing what people can come up with or bring along as the ultimate chopper !

I like that approach. Should make for much more exciting knives and possibly a broader learning experience.

[one_rod]

I would like add one more name if it's not a problem, Owen?
(I'll take it back off if it is.)

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee

What's the accomodation situation?
Is that old building still available for folks to crash in?


one_rod.

[rik]

I'm so in!


1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik


Now checking to see whether any of my friends who expressed an interest in the last couple want to sign up.

[benp1]

Owen, I'd like to put my name down on the list but am not sure on what skill level is required.

I forged a knife last time and that was my first time (really enjoyed it), I'd like to come and have a go at this one but from a previous thread sounded like it was for experienced folks only as it would be more difficult.

Please can you confirm what kinda experience is needed, if any?

[owen bush]

as per always all are welcome and making basic multy layer damascus is quite easy (probably easier than forging a blade if someone shows youn how )
me and mick are doing some complicated stuff for all to watch there are a few of us around who will be able to help with basic damascus so there will be a chance for you to have a go .

[benp1]

as per always all are welcome and making basic multy layer damascus is quite easy (probably easier than forging a blade if someone shows youn how )
me and mick are doing some complicated stuff for all to watch there are a few of us around who will be able to help with basic damascus so there will be a chance for you to have a go .

Thanks Owen, sounds excellent. in that case count me in!!



1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1

[MushiSushi]

i'll be dodging hurricanes in Cancun, but will be thinking of you lot

[rik]

As in "I'm glad there's not a bunch of people here with knives that could easilt lgo flying in this weather?" :)

[rik]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1

Provisionally also
19. Len
20. Meredith

Will confirm asap.

[owen bush]

Im gonna get some T shirts done (hopefully)
Black with my logo on the front and
Bush fire forge
forging soul into steel
Damascus forge in 2007

with the image of a multy bar viking blade underneath .

what do yall recon

[TOBY]

Sounds good to me!

[Longstrider]

Can I put myself down for this as a "provisional" please Owen ?

I'm on leave that week as I'll be having my new workshop delivered and erected a couple of days before the Forge-In. I'd planned to get the new place lined out and some of my 'kit' shifted over from the old place, but I have 12 nights off so should be able to swing a couple of days away with SWMBO.

[Mick Maxen]

And mosaic on the back, good idea.

Mick

[owen bush]

You could do a classy abstracted square of viking over square of mozaic Over random.
Mick could you send me a good quality image of your last "Fire within" my brother is a computer wiz /designer I think I could come up with something V good

[Mick Maxen]

No problem Owen, I'm looking know.

Mick.

[owen bush]

Can I put myself down for this as a "provisional" please Owen ?

I'm on leave that week as I'll be having my new workshop delivered and erected a couple of days before the Forge-In. I'd planned to get the new place lined out and some of my 'kit' shifted over from the old place, but I have 12 nights off so should be able to swing a couple of days away with SWMBO.

If you can make it cool ,I hope you can .If not then next time .

[bashup]

Oh baby, I've been mega busy l8ly but wouldn't want to miss this.

Count me in if that's ok Owen...

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1
18.5 Bash the Bishop

Provisionally also
19. Len
20. Meredith

[owen bush]

The bishop is in the house.

[rik]

Len and Meredith are now confirmed. Count me in for a t-shirt also.

[Ratel10mm]

T shirt sounds like a great idea! :D

[Underhay]

I'd be up for a T shirt too :D

[nickg]

Im gonna get some T shirts done (hopefully)
Black with my logo on the front and
Bush fire forge
forging soul into steel
Damascus forge in 2007

with the image of a multy bar viking blade underneath .

what do yall recon


Yeah Nice
Ill have one

[Longstrider]

Weekend pass granted ! :D I'll be there (and I'll get a T shirt to prove it! ;) )

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1
18.5 Bash the Bishop
19. Len
20. Meredith
21. Longstrider

[imagedude]

Thanks Owen, sounds excellent. in that case count me in!!



1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1

It's looking good for me too!

[owen bush]

cool .

[Hepotec]

I now have a pass out for the weekend.

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1
18.5 Bash the Bishop
19. Len
20. Meredith
21. Longstrider
22. Hepotec

[Longstrider]

I want to have another cutting comp and I'll try and figure out some diferent things to slice on sunday afternoon!!
I'm not interested in limiting blade length or width or materials (mythril alowed!!! also unobtanium!!!) I am interested in seeing what people can come up with or bring along as the ultimate chopper !


How the hell did I miss that little statement until now ? :O
I hope you've got LOTS of 'thick string' Owen ! :naughty: :banana:

[owen bush]

well now i know your definatly coming I'll be hand winding brown painted steel cable .
I'm only interested If you can cut more than last time??????

Oh yeh and Id like to see the 2x4 go just a little quicker (like in one)

I mean come on who in real life would use a 10" knife (given a 13 inch knife or an 18 inch one!!!!!!!!) .
mid air marsh mellows?

[imagedude]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1
18.5 Bash the Bishop
19. Len
20. Meredith
21. Longstrider
22. Hepotec
23. Imagedude

[richard ball]

owen there is a slight chance that I may be allwed out that weekend if so can i come

[Sam66]

I'd like to come to this, as long as you don't mind the fact that I'm a novice ?

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1
18.5 Bash the Bishop
19. Len
20. Meredith
21. Longstrider
22. Hepotec
23. Imagedude
24. Sam66

[PS_Bond]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1
18.5 Bash the Bishop
19. Len
20. Meredith
21. Longstrider
22. Hepotec
23. Imagedude
24. Sam66
25. P S Bond

Probably. In the throes of a house sale at the moment, may be in the throes of a purchase then - but I'll have to make time for this.

[Ratel10mm]

Man, this is going to be GREAT!! :D :boldred: :boldred: :boldred:

[sc_barker]

fingers crossed im free still so should be there

[kerryfoodsgap]

I'm going to attempt to make this one too...been dying to see someone make damascus, who isn't on a page or on a t.v screen!

[Tacol]

I really recommend everyone to go to such an event. I can't make it but Owen and will offer you the best.

His skills and his organisation will give you the best idea of what pattern welding is.

I envy you a lot guys :D

[meles meles]

We's just bukked a ikkle 'otel for the weekend 'as us, so we's now kommitted to turnin' up...

[MushiSushi]

you just did what to a little otter???

darn my dyslexia!!!

[Underhay]

you just did what to a little otter???

darn my dyslexia!!!

:D

[Mr_Yarrow]

I think I may be able to attend just the Sunday of this one, be good to catch up with people.

Not a definite yet, but looking good :)

Rdgs

[Dan P.]

May I put myself down provisionally?
1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1
18.5 Bash the Bishop
19. Len
20. Meredith
21. Longstrider
22. Hepotec
23. Imagedude
24. Sam66
25. P S Bond
26. Dan P.

[owen bush]

May I put myself down provisionally?
1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1
18.5 Bash the Bishop
19. Len
20. Meredith
21. Longstrider
22. Hepotec
23. Imagedude
24. Sam66
25. P S Bond
26. Dan P.
Owens chums
27.Tod
28.other Tod
29.dougal
30.andy
31.ollie
32.jamie
33.tricket
34. nikki
35.steve
36.Rave
37.raves chum1
38.raves chum2

looks like there is going to be a proper gathering !!!

[Mr_Yarrow]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1
18.5 Bash the Bishop
19. Len
20. Meredith
21. Longstrider
22. Hepotec
23. Imagedude
24. Sam66
25. P S Bond
26. Dan P
27.Tod
28.other Tod
29.dougal
30.andy
31.ollie
32.jamie
33.tricket
34. nikki
35.steve
36.Rave
37.raves chum1
38.raves chum2
39. Mr Yarrow - staying the whole weekend :D

[owen bush]

I am going to be asking for £40 for this hammer in .once again I will not be making personal prophit on it and If I manage to make any dosh over the expences of the weekend then they will be rolled into paying for next march (with Don and Jake ) .
I will provide all steel ,gas,and food on sat eve ( if you are vegie let me know).
If you are unable to aford this then you are under no obligation to come along (but could you please take your name off of the list).
I hope that this is aceptable .

[BanjoBill]

Let us know your Paypal details Owen, and I'll send the funds.

[owen bush]

Pay Pal to email adress .
owen@owenbush.co.uk
If you make sure to put your BB name when you pay and say what fore .
many thanks .

[BanjoBill]

Thanks Owen - payment sent :D

[imagedude]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1
18.5 Bash the Bishop
19. Len
20. Meredith
21. Longstrider
22. Hepotec
23. Imagedude
24. Sam66
25. P S Bond
26. Dan P.27.Tod
28.other Tod
29.dougal
30.andy
31.ollie
32.jamie
33.tricket
34. nikki
35.steve
36.Rave
37.raves chum1
38.raves chum2

[meles meles]

Owen: is you doin' anuvver one of 'em ikkle chillis ? Shud us bring sum more Badger's Kreek wine ?

[Mr_Yarrow]

Owen,

Is it OK for me to pay you on the day so you avoid Paypal fees and I can scrape it all together :D

Rgds

[Colin KC]

...Shud us bring sum more Badger's Kreek wine ?


Yes!


Note to self: get Rik to set up security cameras by the booze table, we'll see who this blimmin werebadger is:]

[Mr_Yarrow]

So people know, there will be an auction for a custom knife (probably on the Saturday) and also a raffle on one day as well.

ALL funds raised will go to funding the Hammerins and meet-ups we all enjoy.

Any donations are greatfully received and will surely go to a good home ;)

Rgds

[owen bush]

Owen: is you doin' anuvver one of 'em ikkle chillis ? Shud us bring sum more Badger's Kreek wine ?

I will be doing a wok based feast with the theme of course being HOT!! I'm kind of aiming for fillet steak fahitas (probably prawns as well) , and some kind of pudding to go with it .

[Ratel10mm]

Sorry to put a bit of a damper on it, but I'm allergic to shellfish, and I know that Colin is as well.

If it's easier Owen, I'll bring my own supper?

[owen bush]

I shall be doing them seperatly or give it a miss then .

[Ratel10mm]

Sorry Owen, hope I didn't offend. I recall the chilli from last time, and I would be seriously upset to have to miss it! :biggthump

[nickg]

Owen do we assume you plan to get us all a shot at doing a damascus blade or just demo the damascus and let us all bang away at some plain steel or is it a pure demo/social king of thing. Im just wondering how 40 of us will manage to get time on 6 or so hearths/anvils. Not that I mind which way it runs; just so I know what to anticipate if you know what I mean. I wont miss it anyway.

Cheers
Nick

[owen bush]

I'll answer Honestly, I dont exactly know .
i would suggest teaming up and I can organise that if necesary .
the working in a fire is just a small part of the whole process with cutting and atacking and working the billet being as much work .
I will have one power hammer station (wich will have to be supervised ) and one 8 tone flypress station so there will be a chance for everyone to partisipate .
I will be around milling and showing on saterday .
I view these events as a way to share knowledge and gather people together .after atending you should be able to gain the basic knowledge on how to forgeweld a damascus billet .
I have put aside enough steel for each person to go away with a 1lb billet wether of not that happens is up to you .
We managed to get 30 knives done last time with less fires going .

[Longstrider]

Owen, Si has asked if it's OK to pay in cash on arrival. I'm happy to do this (as it means no Paypal fees for anyone) if it's fine with you.
Let me know, coz if you need the £££ up-front I'll PP it over straight away.

[meles meles]

and one 8 tonne flypress ...


Us kan't decide if you means you 'as jinormus 8 tonne flies in Dartford, or normal ikkle flies you flattens to pankakes in a 8 tonne press...

Spektakular, wichevver way...

[richard ball]

I will yet again be at sea for this. Work sucks big time at the moment and it now looks as if the sword in will be a no go for me as well. I will try my damdest to get to the sword in but I may have to be in the usa next year.
Richard Ball disheartend matlot

[owen bush]

That is a shame .
there will be some other time I am sure .

[owen bush]

Just in case there was any confusion,
I am not using this hammer in a a fund raiser for the one next march ,I have however set the fee so that in all liklyhood the event will make money rather than loose it ,If it does i will use the money to go towards the next one (hope that is as claer as mud!).
anyhow I am sure that it will be a great learning experiance ,and I, am looking forward to it all (after i get the place sorted , so much to do ,so much to do,so much to do!!)

[Longstrider]

All this talk of money and still I don't know whether to Paypal it or just turn up with some readies in my mitt ?

[imagedude]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1
18.5 Bash the Bishop
19. Len
20. Meredith
21. Longstrider
22. Hepotec
23. Imagedude
24. Sam66
25. P S Bond
26. Dan P.27.Tod
28.other Tod
29.dougal
30.andy
31.ollie
32.jamie
33.tricket
34. nikki
35.steve
36.Rave
37.raves chum1
38.raves chum2

39 Pennillion????

[owen bush]

All this talk of money and still I don't know whether to Paypal it or just turn up with some readies in my mitt ?

Paypal would be great 2nd best a cheque on the day or cash with your name on it in an envelope .

[Longstrider]

Paypal sent.

[rik]

I'm just negotiating to borrow a high-speed video camera, to get videos of the hammer welding, and the cutting competition. There is going to be a cutting competition, right? :)

[owen bush]

Ric that is cool .
make sure you get a clear lens cover as forge welding splatters (for sure)

[Longstrider]

I'm just negotiating to borrow a high-speed video camera, to get videos of the hammer welding, and the cutting competition.

Excellent ! :D


There is going to be a cutting competition, right? :)

Oooh Yes ! ;)

[owen bush]

Hmmm are you sure that you will excell at the "cutting a standing jelly baby comp?"

[John N]

Evenin everone, occasional lurker, and the owner of Johns hammer emporium (aka massey) perveyor of fine metal whoopin machinery.

Had a chat with Toby today (the most patient hammer customer ive got, having taken the crown from mr Lucas :) - he mentioned the damascusin your having..... now, its quite a tentative link, but ive got a lil 15kg demonstrator hammer with Nigel Barnett in norfolk, who I understand knows Mick Maxen, who i understand knows most of you guys.....

You are more than welcome to have a loaner on the machine (its fully set on a base, single phase, plug and play) for a few days but its just down to logistics if you would like it.

Massey is a very small company now, and like most small businesses in manufacturing we are not exactly driving round in bentleys (Col can confirm the state of the factory!), so whilst i would love to drop it down there and meet a few more of you im booked up untill next christmas fixin old machines.

If a few of you are interested in this (and its ok with you Owen, you must be up to you neck in organising anyway) im sure it could be arranged one way or another!

thoughts and comments appreciated... (sales@masseyforging.com , nonjicholson@hotmail.com or 0161 3517364 office hrs - ill check back in here aswell! )

[Stew]

Evenin everone, occasional lurker, and the owner of Johns hammer emporium (aka massey) perveyor of fine metal whoopin machinery.

Had a chat with Toby today (the most patient hammer customer ive got, having taken the crown from mr Lucas :) - he mentioned the damascusin your having..... now, its quite a tentative link, but ive got a lil 15kg demonstrator hammer with Nigel Barnett in norfolk, who I understand knows Mick Maxen, who i understand knows most of you guys.....

You are more than welcome to have a loaner on the machine (its fully set on a base, single phase, plug and play) for a few days but its just down to logistics if you would like it.

Massey is a very small company now, and like most small businesses in manufacturing we are not exactly driving round in bentleys (Col can confirm the state of the factory!), so whilst i would love to drop it down there and meet a few more of you im booked up untill next christmas fixin old machines.

If a few of you are interested in this (and its ok with you Owen, you must be up to you neck in organising anyway) im sure it could be arranged one way or another!

thoughts and comments appreciated... (sales@masseyforging.com , nonjicholson@hotmail.com or 0161 3517364 office hrs - ill check back in here aswell! )

What a great second post! :D

[Longstrider]

I don't know about the logistics of this, I guess only Owen can comment on the likelyhood of this being both feasible and useful, but....

What a fantastic offer ! Top Marks John ! :D Reptiles are due. ;)

[imagedude]

I can collect the hammer. It'll cost me 8 gallons of diesel though!;)

[owen bush]

I have invited nigel barnet ,however he didnt get back .I shall re-invite him .
The last time i saw Nigel he had 2 300-masseys and 2 goliaths add an anyang or two and i guess he has all the pies!!!(not that i am jelous or anything)

If the anyang is insured against damage and theft then it'd be good to have a play with it .thanks for the offer .

I'll phone nigel again and if I cant get through then if bob can colect it then the more mashing the better .

[John N]

hes put in a 5 cwt massey since then...... he has been in east europe on a blacksmith jolly for a few days (nige, you can get them mail order now), im not overly worried about damage / theft, just ensure that safety specs are worn etc ( i doubt i would be covered for 3rd pty injury on my policy for this one, as ever common sense applies)

think some of you would be pleasntly suprised by how much work the little steak mallet / sewing machine can do in one heat... its nice to watch the billet heat up as you work it!

with the base there is probably approx 350 / 400 kgs tops in it.

(when i was down at niges forge he had a nice lil pattern welded 'dagger' in his show room, bout 5" blade... he welded it up, fluxless for a bet from one of his students / helpers, from crap (wire etc) that was lying round his forge!) - dont uderestimate a good blacksmith! - he is modest but better than most of us will ever be :)

[Longstrider]

Hmmm are you sure that you will excell at the "cutting a standing jelly baby comp?"

Boys or girls Owen ? Research would suggest that they require slightly differing angles for maximum effectiveness of cut :lol:

Edit : Update after a test run : 'Halvses' is easy enough, but I can't get it so the bottom half remains standing after the cut. They don't half make the blade "gacky" too. ;)

[richard ball]

Keeping you guys safe can some times be real hard. First we are going to sea on such and such a date then a little fire happens and now we are going to sea on this such and such date. now work have said it may be such and such date which is after the hammerin. So Owen could I put my name down again as a possibility.
Richard Ball (hacked off submariner)
Ps sorry for messing it about

[Dan P.]

wac-wac oops! I sadly won't be able to make it.

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1
18.5 Bash the Bishop
19. Len
20. Meredith
21. Longstrider
22. Hepotec
23. Imagedude
24. Sam66
25. P S Bond
26. xxxx
27.Tod
28.other Tod
29.dougal
30.andy
31.ollie
32.jamie
33.tricket
34. nikki
35.steve
36.Rave
37.raves chum1
38.raves chum2

[richard ball]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1
18.5 Bash the Bishop
19. Len
20. Meredith
21. Longstrider
22. Hepotec
23. Imagedude
24. Sam66
25. P S Bond
26. xxxx
27.Tod
28.other Tod
29.dougal
30.andy
31.ollie
32.jamie
33.tricket
34. nikki
35.steve
36.Rave
37.raves chum1
38.raves chum2[/QUOTE]
39.Richard Ball (possibly yes possibly no work dependent and owens say so)

[Sam66]

I've done a quick search and I can't find any address details - for those of us (maybe just me) who don't know where exactly you are can you give us some info?

Also a brief idea of possible local accommodation options would be handy.

[meles meles]

'ome in on the sound o' klangin' 'ammers, 'ooman ! You kan 'ear 'em all o'er Dartford...

[owen bush]

I've done a quick search and I can't find any address details - for those of us (maybe just me) who don't know where exactly you are can you give us some info?

Also a brief idea of possible local accommodation options would be handy.

I am in welling kent post code DA16 3DA
I have a couple of out buildings to use as a place to put up a bed in the dry and (one is heated one not)there are going to be a lot of people bunking down together .
there are local b and b's I have no personal experiance of em I'd do a search in the welling /bexley/grenwich area .

[Mr_Yarrow]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1
18.5 Bash the Bishop
19. Len
20. Meredith
21. Longstrider
22. Hepotec
23. Imagedude
24. Sam66
25. P S Bond
26. xxxx
27.Tod
28.other Tod
29.dougal
30.andy
31.ollie
32.jamie
33.tricket
34. nikki
35.steve
36.Rave
37.raves chum1
38.raves chum2
39. Mr Yarrow
40. Pennillion
41.Richard Ball (possibly yes possibly no work dependent and owens say so)

Because Bob is a twit and didnt check before posting I was missing from Mr Balls post...Penniliion is also a possible attendee so missed, this time due to Mr Ball being a twit :P so, ive added him here as well

[John N]

Had a chat with norfolk nige yesterday, said he will get in touch with you Owen, and try to get down for a couple of days and bring the little toffee mallet with him.

time will tell!

[richard ball]

sorry for being a twit mr y
Work have said I can have this week end off Yippe

[Hepotec]

Owen, I'm having bank problems (6 weeks late with my card), so will give you cash when I arrive, but I'm certainly going to be there. Also, I'm a veggie ( a proper one, so no fish either).

[owen bush]

no worries Hep

[meles meles]

Us werebadgers is plannin' to turn up an' and paw over sum proper kash...

[rik]

I'm planning on cash in hand, if that's okay.

[richard ball]

same with me Owen (Cash that is not a vegie) If thats Okey with you

[owen bush]

could all cash please be in an envilope with your name(one I will recognise as in badger or flamberg or ben if I would know you as that) on it ,please .
Ta owen

[Underhay]

Cash in a brown envelope for me :)

[jhobson]

Paypal would be great 2nd best a cheque on the day or cash with your name on it in an envelope .
reminder

[Mr_Yarrow]

reminder

Good point, added to summary thread :)

[richard ball]

owen i have a camp bed the same type that you lent me at your last hammerin that I will be bringing to this one. Would you want to keep it for other occasions as I may be able to get some more?

[owen bush]

owen i have a camp bed the same type that you lent me at your last hammerin that I will be bringing to this one. Would you want to keep it for other occasions as I may be able to get some more?

That would be handy I am sure . thanks

[owen bush]

does anyone know where to get tamishigiry mats from ?

[richard ball]

Japan?:innocent0
I will see about trying to get a couple of the camp bed type things Owen

[Colin KC]

http://www.ninecircles.co.uk/items.asp?CatID=14

[pennillion]

I have not read this thread through yet, i dont even know when it is or how many days is going on:lol:

But i see cash is involved, and sleeping over:)

I can paypal or bring cash...cheques...whatever, and i can sleep anywhere, anytime, so thats ok.

Is there anything important at all that i need to bring?

[Colin KC]

Is there anything important at all that i need to bring?


You?

[pennillion]

You?I said important.............not unimportant:lol:

[richard ball]

safty glases stout footware weilders gloves if you youse them and a sense of humor. A kip bag to sleep in

[richard ball]

Oh And some nice toys to show and tell

[owen bush]

All of the above are good .

[owen bush]

wow mats are cheap.
53 quid gets 100 I'll get some

[Mr_Yarrow]

I have not read this thread through yet, i dont even know when it is or how many days is going on:lol:

But i see cash is involved, and sleeping over:)

I can paypal or bring cash...cheques...whatever, and i can sleep anywhere, anytime, so thats ok.

Is there anything important at all that i need to bring?

try the sticky at the top the meet-ups forum for a summary ;)

[benp1]

Guys, I'm not 100% if I can make this now. I've been out the last few weekends, quite a few being bushcraft meets, I don't think I can head out for another weekend so might have to pull out

Sorry!

[owen bush]

oky doky ive been bussy sorting things out .I am now off to ireland for a weeks work and back next thursday eve .
my mobile no is 07973798690 and I'll be monitoring this thread whilst I am away .
catch y's later
i'll be at the forge from friday morning (probably just sorting stuff on friday no real forging).see ya then .

[richard ball]

Cheers Owen
I can not wait for this to happen

[KamSingh]

1 Owen
2 Toby
3 Banjobill
4 Underhay
5 Werebadger A (provizunal)
6 Werebadger B (provizunal)
7 Werebadger C (provizunal)
8 JJH
9 Ratel10mm
10 Colin
11 Jhobson
12 Nickg
13 Bardster
14 one_rod
15 Tom (small_rod)
16 Lee
17. Rik
18. Benp1
18.5 Bash the Bishop
19. Len
20. Meredith
21. Longstrider
22. Hepotec
23. Imagedude
24. Sam66
25. P S Bond
26. xxxx
27.Tod
28.other Tod
29.dougal
30.andy
31.ollie
32.jamie
33.tricket
34. nikki
35.steve
36.Rave
37.raves chum1
38.raves chum2
39. Mr Yarrow
40. Pennillion
41.Richard Ball
42. KamSingh

[pennillion]

This is a lot of people.....surely not everyone is going to get a chance to swing a hammer?

[imagedude]

This is a lot of people.....surely not everyone is going to get a chance to swing a hammer?

That's why I'm bringing my own anvil!

[richard ball]

I am not to fussed aboout haven ago just want to meet up with my buddies.
Although there where a load of people at owens last do and we all got a go

[benp1]

This is a lot of people.....surely not everyone is going to get a chance to swing a hammer?

I'm definitely not going to be able to make it to this meet. Sorry chaps, gutted - at least there'll be more space though



Although there where a load of people at owens last do and we all got a go

Tis very true, last time there was indeed a lot of people and everyone got a go

[PS_Bond]

So, apart from the usual safety gubbins, what needs bringing?

[imagedude]

So, apart from the usual safety gubbins, what needs bringing?

Beer and pole dancers. And propane.

[PS_Bond]

Beer I can do, most I'm likely to manage on the pole dancers is a scaffold pole. Propane? In the dinky 13kg things I use???

[owen bush]

I am still in ireland so just a little reminder ,I'll be back tomorow eve but just a little reminder .please bring eye protection and good coton clothes .I will have all gas,steel forges etc ,it you love your own anvil or hammer then bring them .
please bring somthing warm to sleep in and a little booze and i'll be back on here on friday .
if you need me phone 07973798690 and ill try and get back to you.

Ta Owen

[PS_Bond]

So when's kick off?

[meles meles]

Is us 'avin' a ikkle rugger break to wish Jonny & 'is mates gud luk 'gainst 'em springbukkits ?

[Colin KC]

So, you badgers like our ooman sports then?

[Colin KC]

...sports...


Losing interest now:rolleye11:D

[pennillion]

Well i dont know whats happening about sleeping.....think i'd better bring a coat in case i'm outside:rolleyes:

[Stew]

Well i dont know whats happening about sleeping.....think i'd better bring a coat in case i'm outside:rolleyes:

If you take a hammock, it slings up quite nicely in the corner of one of the forge areas.... :rolleye11

[meles meles]

warmer still if you 'angs it over 'em ikkle embers....

[Mr_Yarrow]

Well i dont know whats happening about sleeping.....think i'd better bring a coat in case i'm outside:rolleyes:

Mik,

Sleeping is on mass in a few of the out buildings.

PLEASE make sure you have a warm sleeping bag (im bringing two just for me) and preferably something to slepp on as well, like a rollmatt. If you dont have one, dont panic, let us know and we can probably sort something out for you as theres plenty of time ;)

Rgds

EDIT: From Owens posts;

I am in welling kent post code DA16 3DA
I have a couple of out buildings to use as a place to put up a bed in the dry and (one is heated one not)there are going to be a lot of people bunking down together .
there are local b and b's I have no personal experiance of em I'd do a search in the welling /bexley/grenwich area.

If your planning to sleep in one of the out buildings, remember a rollmatt or some sort of camp bed and a decent sleeping bag (its October remember and the weather might remember that as well )

[Mr_Yarrow]

If you take a hammock, it slings up quite nicely in the corner of one of the forge areas.... :rolleye11

Genius :D

:rolleye11

[imagedude]

PLEASE make sure you have a warm sleeping bag (im bringing two just for me)

Do you zip them together to make a double?

[Stew]

Genius :D

:rolleye11

If I was coming, the space would be taken but as I'm not, go for it.

As you go into the 'yard' it's the roofed area straight ahead, far right corner. There are some nicely located bracing points on the scaffold. Might be wise to give it a slight shake to check they haven't loosened off though.

Most stable nights sleep I've ever had in my hammock and the only time I've 'gone urban' with it. :lol:
I would anticipate a cold night but if you are a hot sleeper and kip in just your pants, I would advise getting up before everyone else starts moving around. :rolleye11 :lol:

[Mr_Yarrow]

Do you zip them together to make a double?

Mummy bags, one inside t'other oh whitty one

Rgds

[pennillion]

Sorry guys, i have to back out of this one i'm afraid.

Purely financial reasons.....£7 and some coppers is not enough to pay for this weekend.

Hope i can get to the next one instead

Sorry Col....sorry Frank:(

[BanjoBill]

Sorry guys, i have to back out of this one i'm afraid.
Sorry Col....sorry Frank:(

I've thought about this for a bit.....and I've decided NOT to accept it.

I will be outside your house, as arranged, Saturday morning. Just be ready.

If you miss it - then I'll miss it :D

[Colin KC]

& he knows where you live:P

[Colin KC]

AND I've loaded up all this stuff for you & I can't unload it all now:rolleye13;)

[imagedude]

Sorry guys, i have to back out of this one i'm afraid.

Purely financial reasons.....


If we pay in advance for pending work then you'll be sorted! And I've found another blade that needs a handle...

[Ratel10mm]

Getting back to the rugby for a moment, does Owen have a TV on site? If not, has anyone got a portable they can bring?

[Mr_Yarrow]

Getting back to the rugby for a moment, does Owen have a TV on site? If not, has anyone got a portable they can bring?

Surely we can get a raido going quite easilly? Not too bothered about seeing it with those moving picture thingies ;)

Rgds

[Colin KC]

Getting back to the rugby for a moment, does Owen have a TV on site? If not, has anyone got a portable they can bring?


Ummm...


































...NO!:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P

[pennillion]

I've thought about this for a bit.....and I've decided NOT to accept it.

I will be outside your house, as arranged, Saturday morning. Just be ready.

If you miss it - then I'll miss it :DOk

But thats a devious trick Frank:rolleyes:

[BanjoBill]

Ok

But thats a devious trick Frank:rolleyes:

Mik - I'm an Accountant. We have our 'Scruple' gene removed as part of our training :D

[pennillion]

I still have to find a way of getting cash quick though.

Anyone wanna buy a lung or kidney?

[Colin KC]

Ok


Yayyyyyyyyyyyy! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[owen bush]

Mick ,
dont worry about the dosh ,if you canf aford it then I'll pay and you can put a handle on a blade for me instead .
Ta owen

[Kisu]

Lucky ba****ds:D I wish I was able to hop on a plane this evening and join in, however, I will take tomorrow off (should be easy as it's a public holiday anyway) and spend the day in my humble little forge thinking of you all:C

Please try to ensure that Si doesn't cut any of his own (or others) limbs off:D

[pennillion]

Mick ,
dont worry about the dosh ,if you canf aford it then I'll pay and you can put a handle on a blade for me instead .
Ta owenThanks mate, but i have to pay my way. I will get it from somewhere tonight.

I can always go out with my striped jersey and swag bag to the local bank.

[imagedude]

Safety specs £3 pair
Welding gauntlets £3 pair
Anti mist goggles £5 pair

[imagedude]

Who's opening the gate in the morning?

[Underhay]

Who's opening the gate in the morning?

And what time are we starting tomorrow?

[JJH]

I've just left 'em and I'd guess they'll start 10 or just before

[imagedude]

I'll be there at 8.