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Andy
27-09-04, 10:38 AM
It seems nothing can be done with them. Are they all just destroyed?

boaty
27-09-04, 12:30 PM
Dunno, but if I had any I would instruct that they were buried with me, along with my gold trinkets, whippets, and family-retainers

Andy
27-09-04, 12:33 PM
I just wonderd if you were allowed to hand them down in a will. So long as the person who owns it after a person dies was alive before the ban you could just lie I suppose

shing
27-09-04, 01:31 PM
You probably can't will them to someone else, the law wouldn't enforce an illegal contract like you can't leave someone a stash of illegal drugs in your will.

ZDP-189
27-09-04, 03:34 PM
You can't???? I have to return Grandpa's weed?

drmike
27-09-04, 04:24 PM
Yeah and Grandma's AK47!

Ophidian
27-09-04, 05:55 PM
Oh yes, I can really see someone listing automatic knives in their will….
Anyone with any sense would have either given them away long before they where ready to croak or at least refer to it as a pocketknife (in their Will). Most of us here have a collection of knives, so how many people would spot an auto in a group of knives especially if it where a secret double-action. :bandit:

ZDP-189
27-09-04, 06:36 PM
Can I put my name down for your SERE in your will for when you're gone? I can send weekly emails to check your latest status ;)

Stephen63
27-09-04, 07:12 PM
Andy,


It should be obvious what happens to autos - they magically fall down the back of the deceased's sofa to be found by the person (knife collector) that buys the sofa second hand....

;)

waya
27-09-04, 08:36 PM
Man I'm going to start buying old sofas, but on a serious note dont the police and all that authoritarian lot have better things to worry about, some local counciler said that large knives and swords that sort of thing had no place on the street (fair comment) but he also stated that they had no place in anyones home not even as decoration, When was the last time he walked around a stately home, would all the lords of the mannor give up all the stuff that their ancestors pillages from India and all the places of the old British Empire. Not on your Life! as for autos just don't tell anyone

Danzo
28-09-04, 07:53 AM
I know this is a well intended and funny thread but lets be careful with it folks. You all know that the Great Old Ones are sensitive to any discussion of autos.

In general such discussion is :censored:

The Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act (1959) does make it illegal to lend or give an automatic knife so the simple answer to andys question is that you cannot pass one on in a will.

:thanks:

Danzo

Tantalus
28-09-04, 01:23 PM
dont they automatically evaporate only to reappear at the least practical moment in a completely different time and location? @ la shroedingers cat ???

Tant

Chux
28-09-04, 06:47 PM
Isn't that Cheshire Cats?

ZDP-189
28-09-04, 06:54 PM
But seriously, this is a true case:

Someone I know (not me) inherited a residence and in the umbrella rack was a sword cane. Under local ordinance such are listed as Prohibited Weapons. Some considerable time has now elapsed.

What ought that person do?

Chux
28-09-04, 07:25 PM
keep quiet and never take it out of the house.

Danzo
28-09-04, 07:59 PM
But seriously, this is a true case:

Someone I know (not me) inherited a residence and in the umbrella rack was a sword cane. Under local ordinance such are listed as Prohibited Weapons. Some considerable time has now elapsed.

What ought that person do?

Pass it to you, as someone knowledgeable in this field, for disposal. The police probably have lots of other things to do, suppressing democracy for example, so they would almost certainly respect your decision to DESTROY the item for them.

;)

This advice should only be followed in Ex-Colonial Territories that I used to live in. Take local police advice in your home jurisdiction.

:bandit:

Danzo

ZDP-189
28-09-04, 08:15 PM
Sure...

"Mr desk seargeant, what should I do if I have an Prohibited Weapon in my possession? Would you like me to give a statement to that effect? Will you be needing anything else to support your search warrant application?"

No, I'll leave it to the owner to make that kind of mistake.

Tantalus
28-09-04, 08:28 PM
lol zed

more like

uhm officer suppose i had this "friend" uhm

who just happened to find........

well maybe more like notice uhmm....

Tant

Danzo
29-09-04, 03:36 PM
Sure...

"Mr desk seargeant, what should I do if I have an Prohibited Weapon in my possession? Would you like me to give a statement to that effect? Will you be needing anything else to support your search warrant application?"

No, I'll leave it to the owner to make that kind of mistake.

Don't TELL them you are destroying it Zed, just do it out of Public Service. Like the guys on what used to be Legco!

:rotfl:

Danzo

stonehard
29-09-04, 04:05 PM
you know some sword canes are very valuable. silver fittings damascus blades etc etc. cant we keep them as antique curios?

Andy
29-09-04, 04:12 PM
how does the place in leeds get round the issue on these laws. could you leave your stuff to somewhere like that?

Danzo
29-09-04, 04:28 PM
you know some sword canes are very valuable. silver fittings damascus blades etc etc. cant we keep them as antique curios?

You can keep them Stony, you can't buy, sell, hire, give, make, lend, blah, blah, blah. You know the score mate!

:rolleyes:

If you have one that is valuable; in your instance perhaps one which was owned by a famous Sikh, which is very possible, then you could offer to present it to a temple, museum or institute and they could 'reimburse' you for your trouble in being so public minded. They can then retain it and display it to the public under certain exemptions given to public institutions.

:approve:

danzo

Ophidian
29-09-04, 06:34 PM
If they feel uneasy about this item then may I suggest that you send it to me for safe-keeping. :)

Danzo
29-09-04, 06:59 PM
He has a farm in Africa........


:biggthump


;)

Danzo

999
06-10-04, 04:59 PM
I was under the impression that anything over 100 years old was exempt from the Offensive Weapons Act 1988 as an antique, and hence 'collectable'? Could anyone clarify please?

[EDIT] Aha! Found it here (http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1988/Uksi_19882019_en_3.htm)

Danzo
09-10-04, 04:13 PM
I was under the impression that anything over 100 years old was exempt from the Offensive Weapons Act 1988 as an antique, and hence 'collectable'? Could anyone clarify please?

[EDIT] Aha! Found it here (http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1988/Uksi_19882019_en_3.htm)

Nice one Dave; that is something that may be useful for the swordstick lovers amongst us.

:approve:

I'm gonna copy this to the new Law Library.

:thanks:

Danzo

Andy
23-10-04, 05:38 PM
does that mean that sword sticks over 100years old are ok to sell and trade?

PS I dont see this in the law labrary