Cheap sheepsfoot slippy?

[bigreddog]

OK, maybe someone can suggest something for me. I've decided I want to put a new pocketknife into my edc rotation. This is so I can hand it down to my son in a few years when he's ready, and give him a chance to use it under supervision first. A bit of tradition if you like.

A few key points:

Must be edc-able
Blade needs to be sub 3 inches from bolster to tip - not just the sharpened bit (a little conservative of me to avoid having any debate with coppers)
Really would prefer one solid blade with a good backspring over a multi-bladed model
I'd prefer a 'blunt' tip - sheepsfoot, farmers style, maybe a spey if needed - I think this a better option for a first knife, and is my personal preference anyway
Handle - ideally wood or antler or similar - a classic rather than tac look
Cheap - if he's anything like me he'll lose it about 30 seconds after he gets it
Not fussed re carbon or stainless

I'm thinking something like the Maserin sodbuster would be ideal, in a sheepsfoot. Likewise I really like Trevor Abletts, but the blades are a bit over 3inches tip to handle I think

[The Blunt End]

There's a couple that might be suitable here
http://www.penknives-and-scissors.co.uk/shop/Pen_and_Pocket_Knives2106.htm
Haven't got one, but I've be considering something very similar to what you want from here and only haven't got one as my birthday is coming up and I'm hoping someone might buy me one. :D

[etorix]

and here http://www.sheffield-pocketknives.com/cart.html?target=dept_3.html&lang=en-us

[Smiling-Knife]

I recommend buying one of Trevor Ablett's knives. See link posted by etorix. Good quality for money, carbon blades, choice of buffalo or rosewood scales, most qualify for edc. Plus supporting an independent Sheffield knife maker. The A Wright & Sons knives are OK, less expensive, but not as good quality IMO. Just my 2p.

[bigreddog]

SK - I really want to - I just have a reservation about a 31/2" blade, even if only 3" is sharpened

[Smiling-Knife]

Hi... Trevors knives listed as 3.5 inches are a total of 3.5 inches closed handle length. The cutting edge (tang to tip) on this knife is 2.5 inches. I believe this is OK for edc. Someone please set me straight if I am incorrect.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/smiling-knife/ablett009-2.jpg

[bigreddog]

OK - so how much steel is sticking out of the handle when it is open? If it is sub-3" we're in business

I know the sharpened bit is key, but I'm being a bit on the cautious side

[Smiling-Knife]

With the blade in the fully open position, it is 2.75 inches from the outside edge of the bolster to the tip of the blade. This includes the portion of tang showing and the sharp edge. Before making any decision, I suggest seeking confirmation from somone much more familiar than I with the legality of this. Good Luck.

[bigreddog]

That is very helpful, thank you

[watcher]

Alternatively Taylor's Eye Witness (http://www.premiercutlery.co.uk/sub_cats.php?cat=pocket_knives) do sheepsfoot blades in a variety of handle materials. (They are also made in Sheffield by BB member Russel White by the way).
Nicola

[mloc]

Hi... Trevors knives listed as 3.5 inches are a total of 3.5 inches closed handle length. The cutting edge (tang to tip) on this knife is 2.5 inches. I believe this is OK for edc. Someone please set me straight if I am incorrect.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/smiling-knife/ablett009-2.jpg

That looks a real gem of a knife :happy22:

[Russell White]

hi mate, our lambfoot blades ar 2 7/8" overall with 2 1/2" cutting edge.
wood is bubinga, 420h blade (56hrc) and 420h spring (47 HRC)

cheers

russell:)

[bigreddog]

Russell - sounds like a nice little blade that.

My first pocket knife was, I think a pruner, that my dad gave me - same rationale as mine I think - bluntish point so that even if you do something foolish, you won't stab yourself, nice sharp edge to do whittling etc

[Jerry Cornelius]

My thoughts exactly. Also a less "aggressive" look to a sheepsfoot blade, may be no bad thing.

I bought exactly the TA knife pictured above last week (well, not the very same one, obviously). it would fit your criteria perfectly. The sliplock is very positive, and bolster to point is 2" 11/16ths. For the price I think its an absolute bargain.

You might also have a look at various things calling themselves army or navy knives. I got the one on the bottom of this page, http://www.attacc.com/acatalog/SHEFFIELD_KNIVES.html but there are others with slightly different blade combinations including, I think, a single blade one. 2" 5/8th from the end of the handle to the tip. Its a nice knife, but bulkier than the TA knife (even more so once I stuck scales on it but I suppose that is my fault. :) )

[parkman]

Hi Bigreddog,

Lovely to think that you want a knife just so that you can hand it on to your
son when you think he is ready. :)

Here is Smiling-Knife's post again. I have a reason for quoting this one:


Hi... Trevors knives listed as 3.5 inches are a total of 3.5 inches closed handle length. The cutting edge (tang to tip) on this knife is 2.5 inches. I believe this is OK for edc. Someone please set me straight if I am incorrect.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q265/smiling-knife/ablett009-2.jpg

I have a very small collection of A Wright & Son Ltd knives because I like the
traditional feel of them. In this collection I have two "Real Lamb Foot" blades
and I would like to send one to you. The blade is exactly like that in S-K's
post but the handle is single bolster, scaled in buffalo horn. It's lovely, mate,
and if your son is lucky, you might one day give it to him. :D

Seriously, it meets your requirements and (I think) is the kind of knife a boy
should have. Would you like it?

I don't want any money, just the satisfaction of knowing it will go to a good
home and, maybe, will inspire a young lad to go on to better things, such as
making his own? Who knows?

Genuine offer. :)

Regards, Mick.

[Russell White]

wow what a fantastic offer, just typical of BB. repped

russell:D

[Noddy]

There's these navy knives - from John Nowill this one is - Heinnie has them

Its what my grandad gave to me :)

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n97/Nodney/nowillq.jpg

[bushwacker]

nice offer Mick.

[bigreddog]

Wow - just seen Micks offer. PM sent, but feeling distinctly unworthy of the offer.

I don't think we realise what a great community we have on here - things like this help turn around a lot of the negatives that seem to exist in the world today.

[parkman]

Don't feel 'unworthy.' :)

I have been given things by members of this site and I was jolly grateful for
them. It's BB karma. It rolls around, touching here and there, and who knows
where it will land next?

I'll post it on Monday. Regards, Mick.

[Smiling-Knife]

That is most generous of you parkman.

[Essexman]

Hi Bigreddog,

Lovely to think that you want a knife just so that you can hand it on to your
son when you think he is ready. :)

Here is Smiling-Knife's post again. I have a reason for quoting this one:



I have a very small collection of A Wright & Son Ltd knives because I like the
traditional feel of them. In this collection I have two "Real Lamb Foot" blades
and I would like to send one to you. The blade is exactly like that in S-K's
post but the handle is single bolster, scaled in buffalo horn. It's lovely, mate,
and if your son is lucky, you might one day give it to him. :D

Seriously, it meets your requirements and (I think) is the kind of knife a boy
should have. Would you like it?

I don't want any money, just the satisfaction of knowing it will go to a good
home and, maybe, will inspire a young lad to go on to better things, such as
making his own? Who knows?

Genuine offer. :)

Regards, Mick.

Wow what an nice offer, very kind . What a great forum this is.

Top man Mick, and I like your sig line .
[runs off to find old madness records......then I remember I don't have a record player anymore....dam]

[flexo]

some traditionnal french knives are sheepfoot:these are le charlois,le charretier,le colonial,le gouttière (i've got one),le langres,le london (british inspiration?)le seurre,and warncliff: le piétain.
they are cheap,quite well done, horn or wood handle, slipjoint, gouttière can have a corkscrew,charlois and charretier can have several blades saw,piétain style blade,punch ,but no corkscrew.

[bigreddog]

some traditionnal french knives are sheepfoot:these are le charlois,le charretier,le colonial,le gouttière (i've got one),le langres,le london (british inspiration?)le seurre,and warncliff: le piétain.
they are cheap,quite well done, horn or wood handle, slipjoint, gouttière can have a corkscrew,charlois and charretier can have several blades saw,piétain style blade,punch ,but no corkscrew.

Interesting - I do love the whole french provincial knife thing.

[cdf]

Some of the 100mm Victorinox grafting knives would fill the bill . Very light , cheap as chips , with that friendly SAK look.

Chris