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Danzo
12-01-05, 01:02 AM
Hi folks

It was a dark and stormy night. I had been trying to finalise a couple of reviews of knives by a couple blokes you know, one of them in Hong Kong and one in Norway; the words weren't coming but the Dalwhinnie was, and I was surfing the knife sites. Wishing I had more available cash in that difficult pre-Christmas period my eyes came to rest upon something I had either not seen before or else glossed over in my search for bigger and better prey. It was a knife by Benchmade, the 10300 Monochrome (http://www.equipped.com/pp/pic1311.htm) . Thanks to www.equipped.com for the picture.

I really liked the look of the knife and I rather liked the price from my old friends at www.newgraham.com

It was $31.25.

:O

So I ordered one and a week later it arrived. Unfortunately a computer glitch had sent a serrated model rather than a plain edge but a quick email to the wonderful Mary Beth at New Graham got me a plain edge on the way as well. That arrived in less than week. I love Mary Beth, albeit in a polite, from a distance way. She replies in minutes to emails sent from the UK and is simply the nicest person you could hope to have on the end of your email.

:D

So what is the Benchmade 10300?

Well, it is part of Benchmades new 'Red' class of knives. The idea is that Gold class knives are BM's limited editions, Black are the 'tactical' knives such as the AFCK, and Blue is most everything else that is made in the USA or Japan. Red class knives are part of a new range made in Taiwan.

Now, I have no problems with Taiwanese or Chinese made kit of any sort as I believe that both countries are as capable of making good quality goods as anyone else, so long as the investment and quality control is in place. I grew up in Hong Kong so I know I'm right. Don't try and argue, should you disagree, because you are wrong. We all know there can be rubbish made in China or Taiwan, but next time you go on holiday ponder where the wheels on your plane were made.......

:O

Sadly a lot of folks in the USA (and no doubt some here) believe that if something is made in Taiwan or China it must be rubbish.

The nature of world economics means that many US knife manufacturers are being pushed into moving production of some lines to either Taiwan or China. I'm sure that some of you have picked up on Spydercos launch of a small range of knives under the brandname 'Byrd' to test the market for cheaper knives. If not, then google will be your guide.

So back again to the Benchmade 10300 Monochrome. It is designed in collaboration with Steirer Eisen (www.steirereisen.com) who are an Austrian knife design company headed by a guy named Armin Stuetz.

The knife is a classic airframe design, meaning the plain metal has cutouts to reduce weight, but in a framelock design which is where part of the handle moves into the return path of the opened blade to act as the lock. Like a Sebenza or Kershaw Chive. The lock itself is very secure, as is generally case with framelocks. The whole knife, including blade, has an anodised or beadblasted 'smooth' look to it, similiar to a Kershaw Leek.

The blade is from a steel called N690. I had thought that this was just a Central European term for 440C and hence had been more than happy with it on this knife for the price. I'm sure that most of you thought that N690 was the same as 440C.

;)

However I did some googling a few nights ago and came up with this (http://www.islandsecuritystore.com/extremaratio.php) which claims that many of Extrema Ratios knives are made from N690. That is probably a good thing. I have little experience of Extrema Ratio but those who do say they are very, very good knives. This leads me to suspect that N690 may be an Italian steel rather than an Austrian one, but if you know better then please correct me. It is quite extraordinarily sharp out of the box, but then almost all production knives are nowadays. But if this IS the steel used by Extrema Ratio then there is a bit of a bargain developing here.........

;)

The fit and finish of the knife are exemplary. The screws are typical BM Torx screws and the pivot works as well as any knife I have. There is a matching clip, with airframe holes, for tip down carry, as is the case with many framelocks including the Benchmade Skirmish. I would challenge anyone who hadn't read this to guess the price of this knife and I would expect to be told at least $75 -$100

So. I normally end with a question or two in a full review. Has Benchmades decision to make a knife in Taiwan been a success? A resounding yes. This is a superb knife. It perhaps lacks real character but I think that BM have gone for simple attractive looks and a rock solid package in order to sell this Taiwanese made knife to the US. I think they have chosen a very, very good steel. I won't bore you with more links but I think that N690 is certainly more than a basic, bog standard steel.

Should you buy one? Ohmigodyes! YES! YES! YES!

Remember, this cost less than twenty quid including postage. And here's why: New Graham are lovely people and excellent value but importantly for us in the Mother Country they ship USPS. This means a small package like a paperback book is delivered by your postperson and the criminal gangs called ParcelTheft or UPS or FedEx don't steal all of your money.

:mad:

Buy one of these knives folks. If you haven't got either a Benchmade or a framelock you want probably want one or both so you could do with a 10300. If you have both then you can't do without one; it's a Benchmade framelock and only £20 delivered. Probably within a week. From the US of A. In the depths of winter. A cold cure in a knife. Go. Buy.

:D

Danzo

The General
12-01-05, 01:43 AM
Nicly done sir! :D

I think I will have to take a close look at one of these.

The General
12-01-05, 02:12 AM
N690 steel is indeep reputed to be a better steel than 440c in several respects. IIRC it can be hardened higher, has more wear and corrosion resistance. Of course, its all in the heat treat at the end of the day! ;) But a good steel is a great start!

Wrangler
12-01-05, 03:04 PM
Excellent review Danzo! :biggthump

It`s funny, but yesterday I asked in our german messerforum if anybody wants to sell a Monochrome. (As a small gift for our grown-up son.) The knife has got nothing but good reviews so far. The steel is from austrian manufacturer Boehler
as I know and should hold a great edge for a while.
Armin Stuetz (the designer) took part in a folding knife contest at german messermagazin in 2001 and won 2. place with his knife.
The shape was similar to the monochrome but with a linerlock, bolsters and blade of damasteel and handle scales of blue G10.
He called the knife "Animal World". Fantastic knife!
Guess the monochrome will be a "simple" but very well made user!

Wolfgang

Hellz
12-01-05, 03:46 PM
Nice review Danzo, intriguing too... ;)

It's a very appealing shape, and I do quite like air frames. That might go on the wish list, especially at that price! :D

Hellz

Basemetal
12-01-05, 04:34 PM
Intriguing Review Danzo...quirky, personal, opinionated, articulate, well written.

If it had some dimensions and an embedded picture it'd be near perfect.....
Howbiggizzit? :banghead:

http://www.equipped.com/pp/GR/Benchmade_Monochrome-lg.jpg

http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/verkleidung/costumed-smiley-064.gif

Danzo
12-01-05, 05:22 PM
Thanks for the pic Danny, I don't have any pic hosting hence the link.

You want stats? You got stats!

:D

Overall length: 7.37"
Closed length: 4.34"
Blade length: 3.04"
Blade thickness: 0.12"
Weight: 3.8 oz

Danzo

Bazza
12-01-05, 05:46 PM
Great review Dan, very inticing! As it's beadblasted all over is it slippery in the hand?
Barry

Danzo
12-01-05, 05:56 PM
Great review Dan, very inticing! As it's beadblasted all over is it slippery in the hand?
Barry

It isn't, or at least not particularly so. What I forgot to mention is that there is grooving at both ends, top and bottom, which give traction for your forefinger and thumb.

A lot of thought has gone into the design!

:D

Danzo

Basemetal
12-01-05, 06:17 PM
Thanks for the pic Danny, I don't have any pic hosting hence the link.

Hi D,
Thansk for sizes. Now I want one... :mad:
I think you may be missing a trick! I didn't "host" that pic, I just linked to the target pic on the page you posted a link to. Here's how:
Find the pic you want, almost anywhere on the web. Right click on it and select "properties". Copy the image address in its entirety. Then use this text between " and tags. (Or click the "insert image" icon and paste the text into the dialogue window.) When you preview your post...Voila! piccie!

If this isn't clear, Quote my post above and look at the text version in your edit window as if you were going to reply....you'll see the address text link between the square bracket image tags.

And not a host in site.

http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/verkleidung/costumed-smiley-064.gif

Basemetal
12-01-05, 06:20 PM
"Thansk" is a bona fide historical greeting of 35th level members (and above) of the Dan Clan.

So there.

http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/verkleidung/costumed-smiley-064.gif

Danzo
12-01-05, 06:36 PM
Hi D,
Thansk for sizes. Now I want one... :mad:
I think you may be missing a trick! I didn't "host" that pic, I just linked to the target pic on the page you posted a link to. Here's how:
Find the pic you want, almost anywhere on the web. Right click on it and select "properties". Copy the image address in its entirety. Then use this text between " and tags. (Or click the "insert image" icon and paste the text into the dialogue window.) When you preview your post...Voila! piccie!

If this isn't clear, Quote my post above and look at the text version in your edit window as if you were going to reply....you'll see the address text link between the square bracket image tags.

And not a host in site.

http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/verkleidung/costumed-smiley-064.gif

:sign26:

Danzo

MotorbikeMan
12-01-05, 07:29 PM
oooohh, that's nice. I do like that airframe style as well. Nice review Danzo :biggthump

Hellz
12-01-05, 08:04 PM
Danzo, if you ever want me to host pictures on my site just drop me a pm, or better still, send me the knife and I'll take the pictures myself :D

Hellz

lemoneyewash
12-01-05, 09:37 PM
Hmmmm. Nice one Danzo.

Just ordered one. :)

Wrangler
14-01-05, 02:43 PM
Got a monochrome for our son today.
Good and solid feel. Well made. :biggthump
A robust user.
I was only a little dissapointed about sharpness. But that can be changed! ;) :D

Wolfgang

Danzo
14-01-05, 09:16 PM
Wolfgang, I got both a plain edge and a serrated and both are arm hair shaving sharp. How sharp do you get your knives!?!?

:O

Danzo

MotorbikeMan
14-01-05, 09:43 PM
Wolfgang, I got both a plain edge and a serrated and both are arm hair shaving sharp. How sharp do you get your knives!?!?

:O

Danzo
Just take a look at Wolfgang's tag line

or is ther another reason for the hair loss?


;)

Danzo
15-01-05, 12:45 PM
Just take a look at Wolfgang's tag line

or is ther another reason for the hair loss?


;)

:happy51:

Danzo

Wrangler
15-01-05, 04:34 PM
He guys,

no kidding about us bald-headed people!!! :mad: :D :D :D

But back to serious. The monochrome (plain) that I got could not shave arm hairs right out of the box. But after a little sharpening on the stone it`s prepared for a barber`s job. ;)

Wolfgang bald-head :P :D

Danzo
15-01-05, 04:53 PM
What do you think of it after a day or so, Wolfgang? I've been carrying it for a couple of weeks and I think that it would be a good value knife even for twice or more the cheapest US price.

:D

Danzo

Wrangler
17-01-05, 01:04 PM
Hi Danzo,

no experience with the knife, `cause it`s a gift for our son.
But after a few weeks of use I`ll ask him for a report.
Besides studying at Frankfurt University he`s working in security business and needs a strong cutting tool. (Not intended as a weapon!) I`m scared when I see the shabby Herbertz folder he uses currently. When he gave me that one for sharpening a while ago I could not believe he did not hurt himself with it already!
So I`ll just wait for his feedback.
Guess in this price range or even double the price, there`s no comparable folder in the market right now!

Greets,
Wolfgang

999
17-01-05, 06:33 PM
I'm so tempted by one of these. Reports about the steel have been comparing it to VG-10 rather than 440C which for that price looks really good. I only own one BM (a mini-grip) and no framelocks so I think this may manage to sneak under the "more knives!?" radar.

Be careful posting images in that way btw, as a lot of sites consider it bandwidth theft and have something much more offensive replace it. I will host pics if anybody needs it.

Danzo
20-01-05, 10:15 PM
I'm so tempted by one of these. Reports about the steel have been comparing it to VG-10 rather than 440C which for that price looks really good. I only own one BM (a mini-grip) and no framelocks so I think this may manage to sneak under the "more knives!?" radar.

Be careful posting images in that way btw, as a lot of sites consider it bandwidth theft and have something much more offensive replace it. I will host pics if anybody needs it.

Thanks mate, I reckon that www.equipped.com will be OK about the photo as we share a lot of members, along with BCUK and Jean Marcs www.outdoors-magazine.com.

Motorbikeman should be contacting you in a week or so concerning some bats for playing com.

:D

Danzo

MotorbikeMan
20-01-05, 10:18 PM
Thanks mate, I reckon that www.equipped.com will be OK about the photo as we share a lot of members, along with BCUK and Jean Marcs www.outdoors-magazine.com.

Motorbikeman should be contacting you in a week or so concerning some bats for playing com.

:D

Danzo
can't wait :rolleyes:


:biggthump :D

Stuart Ackerman
20-01-05, 10:36 PM
Right Danzo,
I am going to come clean about my 440C.
It is actually Bohler N690, the equivalent of 440 F, which is 440C with a bit of cobalt.
People wonder why my knives hold an edge better than other 440 C steel blades... the answer is it is really 440F and it is sub zero heat treated!
Bohler are the only manufacturers of N690, and I can get it in New Zealand!!
It was the "440C" I used in South Africa, and it is what I use here.

Stuart

Danzo
20-01-05, 10:40 PM
can't wait :rolleyes:


:biggthump :D

In the post today but the man with the van had left already. As it is SD you will have it on Saturday.

:D

Danzo

Danzo
20-01-05, 10:46 PM
Right Danzo,
I am going to come clean about my 440C.
It is actually Bohler N690, the equivalent of 440 F, which is 440C with a bit of cobalt.
People wonder why my knives hold an edge better than other 440 C steel blades... the answer is it is really 440F and it is sub zero heat treated!
Bohler are the only manufacturers of N690, and I can get it in New Zealand!!
It was the "440C" I used in South Africa, and it is what I use here.

Stuart

Thanks for the info Stuart. I wish my folks were down with you rather than Wellington cos then I would get one of your knives as a present and they look good!

I like the one from the bloke I asked you about but it really is a basic hobbyist knife. If I had made it I wouldn't sell it, but hey, my folks were doing their best.

:rolleyes:

Danzo

Wrangler
21-02-05, 02:08 PM
Just talked to our son and he is very happy with his Monochrome. :D
As he told me, it holds a great edge and doesn`t need to be sharpened yet. He`s cutting cardboard, plasticstraps and some food when he is working (as security) at openair rock concerts. Of course he opens bottles with it ;) and it`s still in a good condition.
An important aspect for him is the non-agressive look of the knife. It`s more a cutting tool than a weapon. He doesn`t want to part with it.

Wolfgang

Wrangler
09-03-05, 06:46 PM
Bought a 2nd Monochrome ( they are very nice as little gifts!) and wow, this one is hairshaving sharp right out of the box! :yikes: :biggthump
Guess they are very hard (or N O T ) to beat in their price range! :D

Wolfgang

lemoneyewash
09-03-05, 08:30 PM
Just talked to our son and he is very happy with his Monochrome. :D
As he told me, it holds a great edge and doesn`t need to be sharpened yet. He`s cutting cardboard, plasticstraps and some food when he is working (as security) at openair rock concerts. Of course he opens bottles with it ;) and it`s still in a good condition.
An important aspect for him is the non-agressive look of the knife. It`s more a cutting tool than a weapon. He doesn`t want to part with it.

Wolfgang

Got part serrated one for no. 2 son who uses it as a real work horse (he installs all types of insulation in factories/houses etc.) cutting foams/tapes/felts etc. Apparently doesn't hold an edge as well as an old 'cheapo' no name framelock he has. He finds it adequate and, for the money, the excellent build quality itself means the 'Mono' will outlast his 'cheapo' anyway.
I've been using my plain edge one at work too (cardboard/plastics/pencils/tape etc.) and I've found the edge holding acceptable for the money and very easy to sharpen anyway. :)

SLT.AMBEMC
12-08-06, 02:22 PM
I recently bought one for £20, and for this, you get much more knife than the price tag. The finish is one of the best I have seen on this sort of "cheaper" knives, razor sharp out of the box, and the edge is holding fine at the moment. Very simple design, almost minimalist, and it works. But for the lock, I would carry it all the time.