Rotted Wood Hardener

[MotorbikeMan]

I got some rotted wood harderner to soak some scales in the other day. One of the things I hjave noticed is that within minutes, it will seperate into a clearish liquid on top with a white goo at the bottom. As I'm not able to go down the vacuum route at the moment due to time, I was just going to put the scales in a jar with the hardener and leave them to soak for a week or so.

My questions are is this seperation normal and will soaking still be effective as I can't shake it up every few minutes?

[Basemetal]

I've never seen the separation Jon -mine stays the same colour ( a kind od sherry colour) all through. Was there anything on the wood before you soaked it?

Could it be contaminated with water ?

Mystified.

[Basemetal]

I think I'd try decanting off the clear stuff to get away from the "goo". The clear stuff hopefully should be the hardener. If the clear stuff turns out to be water...that's the problem!

[MotorbikeMan]

I've never seen the separation Jon -mine stays the same colour ( a kind od sherry colour) all through. Was there anything on the wood before you soaked it?

Could it be contaminated with water ?

Mystified.
Nope, it came out of the tins like that. I've bought 2 tins to fill a half litre jar and soak the wood and they were both like that, in fact, the second one needed a really good shake for some time to get it all to mix :huh:

[MotorbikeMan]

I think I'd try decanting off the clear stuff to get away from the "goo". The clear stuff hopefully should be the hardener. If the clear stuff turns out to be water...that's the problem!
definately doesn't smell like water, extremely strong solvent smell, and any spillage evaporates very quickly which I figure is as expected?

[Basemetal]

Sounds like something has gone wrong with it :(. Is there a "helpline" address on the tin?
It wouldn't be effective to "paint" on if it has separated in the tin.
ColinKC uses it too so he might have come across it. Anybody else?

[MushiSushi]

it needs to be pretty runny for infusion, this stuff sounds quite gloopy, I'd try thinning it or go with the Bonda wood hardnener from CFS www.cfsnet.co.uk

[Lord Farquhar]

whats make is it?
I have some solvent based hardener that is designed for old window sills etc and all your supposed to do is paint it on then let it dry.

Its very volitile

[MotorbikeMan]

This sounds like the same stuff Lord F. The one I have is Cuprinol Ultrahard Wood Hardener. The clear liquid on the top is a sort of pale straw colour.

[Lord Farquhar]

aye i think its the same i belive it has a cellulose thinners base and it very sticky. the penetration should be very good.

just watch your hands when you take it out the jar
oh and no smoking :)

[Stuart Ackerman]

...or you will be known as ArsonistMan...

[Basemetal]

Interesting that the Ronseal stuff should be so different....
Must look and see if it says wha tthe active ingredients are.
D.

[MotorbikeMan]

Just had a thought :O What do I do once the wood has soaked for a few days, do I just take it out, let it dry and work the wood like normal, Or do I have to let cure for a period of time?

[Lord Farquhar]

I think you just let it dry out.
it might take a wee while more so if you doing rotted and pourous wood

[Colin KC]

Tried Ronseal & Homebase owbn brand, both browny, clear, runny, volatile liquid, no white stuff, sounds like seperation, might be old stock. I'd chuck it away & get some homebase own brand;)

[Lord Farquhar]

Tried Ronseal & Homebase owbn brand, both browny, clear, runny, volatile liquid, no white stuff, sounds like seperation, might be old stock. I'd chuck it away & get some homebase own brand;)

Colin are you on commision only ? :D

[Colin KC]

Colin are you on commision only ? :D


Shareholder;):P

[MotorbikeMan]

Another question abour wood hardener :rolleyes: Once the wood is dry again, how do I know if the hardener has worked? will the wood literally be hard? (Careful :P :D )

[Basemetal]

Another question abour wood hardener :rolleyes: Once the wood is dry again, how do I know if the hardener has worked? will the wood literally be hard? (Careful :P :D )


Harder...yes -well depending what it was to start with. And less likely to fray and it will give a cleaner edge when cut. Probably darker and heavier too....

:)

[Otto]

I have searched the web, talked to my local boat dealers and hardwear shops but non have heard of anything called wood hardener. I have talked to different makeres like Bonda and Minwax but they dont have a distibuter i Norway. The minimum amount is $1000 for a special delivery.
Do anybody have an idea as how i can get my hands on some wood hardener?
(I get about 10 emails a day about a product to get my own wood hard but that just not the same :-) )
Minwax is highly flamabal and would be dificult to send by mail but PC-Petrifier might work if i find a shop that sends to europe.

[Lord Farquhar]

I have searched the web, talked to my local boat dealers and hardwear shops but non have heard of anything called wood hardener. I have talked to different makeres like Bonda and Minwax but they dont have a distibuter i Norway. The minimum amount is $1000 for a special delivery.
Do anybody have an idea as how i can get my hands on some wood hardener?
(I get about 10 emails a day about a product to get my own wood hard but that just not the same :-) )
Minwax is highly flamabal and would be dificult to send by mail but PC-Petrifier might work if i find a shop that sends to europe.

PM dave barker :O

[Basemetal]

Otto...would it help to look for "stabiliser"? Since stabilised wood seems to be available in Norway and is widely used for handles -maybe it's just a terminology problem.

Danny