Spyderco BB Forum knife: price and lock poll

[Basemetal]

I agree

But only because I want a Carpenter steel.

Um... Carpenter Steel is a company, not a steel grade?

[Basemetal]

I like chips but only the potatoe variety

Grind and use might be an issue as well?

[Chui]

If it turns out to be plasticy, I mean FRN, then I would prefer my G10 UKPK to it.

A Spyderco Native is a knife made in US for the US (doesn't the name mean that?) and we should have our own knife. A collaboration with a UK maker or a special Urban or something.

And nothing from the far east for me, regardless.

Ok, but if it was Native outline, without swedge, full flat grind..........'Spyderco Bombadier'.........whatever....?

[parbajtor]

....so long as it aint purple frn

....or yellow.....or orange......or

Gay?

I think up to £80 would be ok for me, but I do think it should be an EDC knife rather than a drawer queen, and people shouldn't feel apprehensive about using it every day. If the timing had been better it could have been the UKPK (when it first came out), although the price is a little high for EDC. I reckon a slip-it persistence or preferably my personal choice of a a slip-it native. (I usually prefer a more conventional blade shape). This would have been my first purchase of a Spyderco knife, as although I've heard only great things about them, the blade shapes and prices combine to put me off a little bit. I probably could grow to love them but the price seems a bit steep for a gamble on something that doesn't really grab me right off. However, I have since checked out the range at Heinnies and have just ordered a ladybug salt (mainly because I want an H1 blade to test the performance). The blade shapes that do appeal to me are; Manix, Chokwe, Zowada, Leafstorm and Perrin. Mind you by the time the BB knife is ready, I'll have had a "humpback folder" for long enough to have changed my mind.

[greendestiny]

Grind and use might be an issue as well?

Use is an issue with me. Don't know what I do wrong but I find Spydercos S30v too brittle in my hands.

[Stew]

Um... Carpenter Steel is a company, not a steel grade?

Correct. That's why I said a Carpenter steel.

Probably CTS-XHP but there may be another choice.

[Mr Miller]

Correct. That's why I said a Carpenter steel.

Probably CTS-XHP but there may be another choice.

CTS 20CP? It's meant to be Carpenter's equivalent to S90V....

[ChrisR]

Correct. That's why I said a Carpenter steel.
Probably CTS-XHP but there may be another choice.

The 2 steels Spyderco have already stated they will use are XHP (on a Manix sprint and Mule) and BD1 (slated for future runs of the FRN UKPK) so I would also go for XHP if Sal feels that it is a suitable steel for a small-bladed folder

Sal also said he'd like to see an S90V UKPK some day ... but fancy (more difficult to sharpen) steels might put some off and might add too much to the cost also

[greendestiny]

Ok, but if it was Native outline, without swedge, full flat grind..........'Spyderco Bombadier'.........whatever....?

But that's just a Native 4 isn't it? Besides isn't there a Native slippie on its way anyway?

From the current knives I personally wouldn't mind a special Urban Leaf as I sometimes find the UKPK a little large in the pocket. Black G10 Urban leaf with ZDP core steel?

[earthman]

Whatever design/price is decided I'll probably buy one.

I tell you what I would like to see on it though, the words 'UK LEGAL EDC' should be etched into the blade, that would hopefully clear up any confusion if you were stopped/searched. I'm amazed and disappointed that Spyderco did not put those words on the UKPK.

[Danzo]

I tell you what I would like to see on it though, the words 'UK LEGAL EDC' should be etched into the blade, that would hopefully clear up any confusion if you were stopped/searched. I'm amazed and disappointed that Spyderco did not put those words on the UKPK.

Why on earth would they?

Those words and abbreviations are only understood by a few hundred people in the UK; specifically those of us who frequent internet knife forums. They mean nothing beyond our self created frame of reference.

To everyone else, including police officers, magistrates, lawyers and judges they are totally meaningless.

All putting "UK LEGAL EDC" on a blade would achieve is a blade full of pointless writing.

Danzo

[earthman]

To everyone else, including police officers, magistrates, lawyers and judges they are totally meaningless.

All putting "UK LEGAL EDC" on a blade would achieve is a blade full of pointless writing.

Fair enough, I'm not great with words, what would you suggest? something from S139?

My point is if it's aimed/marketed as a UK legal carry why not have something stating that? At the end of the day you could say that the blade does look a bit scary to some, several members on here seem worried about carrying them in public just for that reason.

[Danzo]

Fair enough, I'm not great with words, what would you suggest? something from S139?

No, absolutely not. Not ever. Never.

Any knife is only as legal as the law permits.

Should "THIS KNIFE IS LEGAL SO F**K OFF COPPER" or a more polite equivalent be etched on a blade then you are setting yourself up for arrest and three free meals a day.

The legality of carrying knives has got to begin in the mind of the person carrying the knife. If you know in yourself that have a good reason for carrying a knife then you almost certainly do have a good reason. If you need to find reasons then you don't.

In the same way a UK legal carry knife is not made so by having it stamped on the blade. It's made so by carrying the knife in observance of the law in a sensible and respectful fashion.

I despair sometimes, I really do.....



Danzo

[Stew]

Fair enough, I'm not great with words, what would you suggest? something from S139?

My point is if it's aimed/marketed as a UK legal carry why not have something stating that? At the end of the day you could say that the blade does look a bit scary to some, several members on here seem worried about carrying them in public just for that reason.

Why just something from S139?

I would like to see all of S139 on the blade.

[Fizzy]

i obviously do not know the membership breakdown, but suggest that the best advert for a 'British' blades club/forum knife would be one that could be carried all the time. there is a promotional element to this as i am sure the knife will be identifiable with the forum? it would, for uk members also mean the club knife they have purchased can also be used all the time as opposed to either becoming a collectable or an occasional carry.

Very good point! Sounds like a fantastic idea anyway