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    Langsax WIP, my vision of a late 7th early 8th century langsax

    Hello to all my friends here and other knife enthusiasts !

    I've been reading a great series of books and I know many of you know it. I'm talking about the saxon stories of Bernard Cornwell.
    Impossible not to get this forge itch in your hands and the urgent need to forge wasp sting or serpent breath isn’t it ?

    Hard to get Uthred of Bebbanburg and his adventures out of your mind !!!! it haunted me for weeks.

    Three weeks ago, I decided to start a Langsax, inspired from several influences. It won't be a true historical reconstruction.

    First I want to thank a handful of people for their influence and because they share this passion like no one else. I name here Owen Bush, Mick Maxen, Jake Powning, Peter Johnson, Petr Florianek ,Dave Stephens and last but not least Jeroen Zuiderwijk. I apologize the ones I forget to name, the list could be very long.
    I surely do not have the level of skills of some but I know it doesn't matter. This WIP will take a long time, don't be too frustrated if it goes slowly. This is my first big pattern welded multibar seax.

    This forum and others have provided me lots and lots of fuel to keep my passion burning hot. Now, I want to give a little back myself.

    To share an idea of the time spent, I will give an approximate working time on each update.
    Thanks for your interest, don't hesitate to make comments or give advice.

    Stéphane

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    Re: Langsax WIP, my vision of a late 7th early 8th century langsax

    WIP :
    I started two weekends ago by gathering the materials, preparing the billets and stack them. The blade will be 4 bars : 7layers 15n20-90mcv8/ wrough iron / 160layers 15n20-5160ish / 40layers for the edge

    I keep it quite simple for a first one.
    Sorry for the pictures, I took them with my iphone. During the effort I tend to have shaky hands.


    No pictures of the billet welding and drawing but you know the job. Hand hammer, power hammer and press.

    - 7 layers interrupt twist above
    - Wrought iron (dating around 1830)
    - Billet 160 layers
    - Billet 40 layers on the side for the edge



    The piece of wood is the blade blank

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    Re: Langsax WIP, my vision of a late 7th early 8th century langsax

    Next weekend, forge welding the bars together, (twice) and starting to draw.


    Rough grinding to check welds and back in the fire.


    Thorough grinding to check all welds, one flaw near the tip was spotted and solved. I switch to my gas forge because the blade is becoming too long.



    Forging the tip hand hammering to fit the blade blank
    End of the Saturday completely nackered, 7 hours forging

    Beer time, I was really really dirty dusty and black. Just the way I love :o)

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    Re: Langsax WIP, my vision of a late 7th early 8th century langsax

    Sunday, lots and lots and lots of sparks. I dreamt of a surface grinder or a laser cutter… oh well I went for the usual grinder and 36 grit ceramic belts.

    At this point I had 2mm on the edge. I broke the angles with sand paper and let’s go for 3 normalizations

    Then oil quenched. Sorry no pictures I was alone and way too stressed.
    Slight warping, corrected on the anvil, no fatal “TIC” I was happy !!!


    Immediate departure for the pizzeria. First to eat but also to stick the blade in their oven for an hour.

    Back in the workshop, final rough grind, decreasing the grits and little etch to see how it looks like


    6 hours work that day
    Happy and disappointed at the same time. Welds are great but the wrought showed awful slag inclusions inside the bars. Of course deep inside the bars and it shows at the end. Structurally it is not an issue but esthetically not good.
    Next steps, cut a fuller on the slag spots and remove them eventually.

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    Re: Langsax WIP, my vision of a late 7th early 8th century langsax

    During the week, evening workshop time for about 3h30
    Another spark feast to shrink the blade and try to get rid of the slag in the wrought.
    Success for one side, not really on the other so I go for the fuller.

    I feel quite confident with the grinder, therefore I cut the fuller freehand in several passes.

    EDM stones to rectify

    Done for both sides

    Grinding 220 grit then hand sanding 240/320 and so on.
    It ‘s late and I can’t wait for a little etch to see the pattern

    Very happy, the fuller visually solved the slag inclusions well enough. I can live with it.
    Now shower and bed …

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    Re: Langsax WIP, my vision of a late 7th early 8th century langsax

    What timing, i've just started reading them again after petering out at book 3/4 last time.

    I certainly revelled at the forging of serpent breath this time round because i'm a smith (of sorts) now.

    Nice work!
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    Re: Langsax WIP, my vision of a late 7th early 8th century langsax

    Great work! I was a bit surprised when I saw the angle grinder being used for the fuller. Turned out real nice.
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    Re: Langsax WIP, my vision of a late 7th early 8th century langsax

    Quote Originally Posted by Tacol View Post
    Immediate departure for the pizzeria. First to eat but also to stick the blade in their oven for an hour.
    How cool is that ? " 12' Margherita please and can I temper this blade ? cheers "

    It's going to be handsome langsax, can't wait to see the final product.

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    Re: Langsax WIP, my vision of a late 7th early 8th century langsax

    That is going to be beautiful mate! (well, it already is!) - some nice steady work with the angle grinder.


    have you heat treated the wooden one yet?

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    Re: Langsax WIP, my vision of a late 7th early 8th century langsax

    Stunning work .
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    Re: Langsax WIP, my vision of a late 7th early 8th century langsax

    Thanks for the comments guys.
    John, if only we could harden wood ! When you are used to work with steel, I'm always amazed to see how soft other materials are.

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    Re: Langsax WIP, my vision of a late 7th early 8th century langsax

    I had several projects in mind for the handle.
    Again nothing historical, just the way I imagine a Langsax. I want to have fun and improve/discover new techniques.
    The wood will be walnut, patinated brass and a ring of reindeer.
    I made the fittings in wood first to see how it looks like. I’m now trying to etch designs on brass as I don’t have the material to cast bronze.
    The blade is now finished and etched. It need good pictures so you’ll have to wait a bit.
    I spent around 5 hours for these “details”




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    Re: Langsax WIP, my vision of a late 7th early 8th century langsax

    You seems to put a lot of efforts on that blade, but I'm sure it worth them.
    Good job on the freehand fuller, and I can't wait for the next post.

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    Re: Langsax WIP, my vision of a late 7th early 8th century langsax

    Great WIP Stephane, looking forward to more progress
    Will you be carving the bit of reindeer antler too?
    go on, you know you want to...

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    Re: Langsax WIP, my vision of a late 7th early 8th century langsax

    I am really looking forward to seing this finished! More seaxes is always nice!

 

 

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