Please recommend me some gear!

[Nice65]

How easily can you puncture a mat like that? Can it happen over some twigs / pineapple / small stones or do you need stuff like glass and big nasty rocks?

Pineapple . My biggest worry when camping. You mean Pine needle?

Just brushing past a bramble, rose or any other thorn will quite possibly see you sleeping on cold, hard ground. Unless the mat is properly protected, ie; inside your pack, then I wouldn't bother with them. Strapping to the outside is a recipe for a bad night.

The recommendation for Alpkit isn't good IMO. They have a poor quality foam inside them and they don't self inflate. At least a Multimat or Thermarest offers a bit of padding if punctured.

Personally I've had it with self inflating mats.

[Frederiek]

Thanks for that, do you (or your wife) have experience with this one? Finally something they sell here

What would you think of these:
http://www.buitensportwinkel.nl/inde...shop&Itemid=41
http://www.de-wit.nl/nl/spitfire-duo-tent

And these:
http://www.nomad.nl/nl/producten/lit...lico12sm87103/ (twice my budget, I know)
http://bever.nl/index.cfm/product/th...id_colour/5806

[Martyn]

Thanks for that, do you (or your wife) have experience with this one?

No, but the golite Jam has been a hugely popular pack, less than 900g, almost a cult following and it's in your budget. But no, sorry no personal experience of it.

Finally something they sell here

What would you think of these:
http://www.buitensportwinkel.nl/inde...shop&Itemid=41
http://www.de-wit.nl/nl/spitfire-duo-tent

No experience of either, but I know you'd be happy with this...
http://www.golite.com/Shangri-La-3-Tent-P46713.aspx On sale at the mo, superb price.

And these:
http://www.nomad.nl/nl/producten/lit...lico12sm87103/ (twice my budget, I know)
http://bever.nl/index.cfm/product/th...id_colour/5806

Either the neoair or the peak elite will be much more comfortable.

[RamblerUK]

I have the coleman phad x2, not used it yet though. Only ever read good reviews of it though, but it's slightly over your weight limit at 3.5kg, but it's pretty cheap, and plenty of room for gear. I was going to get the vango banshee 200 instead of this (which i'm glad I didn't) because although it's 1kg lighter, it's a lot smaller too (and I like my room).

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Coleman-Phad...8489224&sr=8-1

[Martyn]

...Thermarest offers a bit of padding if punctured.

Except the neoair, that's just a plastic bag mate.

[Nice65]

Except the neoair, that's just a plastic bag mate.

That the one you have? Packs like Handie Andies, turns into a mattress?


How about one of these Frederiek?

http://bever.nl/index.cfm/product/th...id_colour/1204

The one you quoted looks absolutely fine, but this is about a third of the weight at 310g.

What was that concertina closed sell mat someone posted before?

[Martyn]

Ohhh, I've just noticed the golite packs are on sale too...

http://www.golite.com/packs-and-lugg...ntry-ultralite

Now that is cheap.

[Martyn]

That the one you have? Packs like Handie Andies, turns into a mattress?


How about one of these Frederiek?

http://bever.nl/index.cfm/product/th...id_colour/1204

The one you quoted looks absolutely fine, but this is about a third of the weight at 310g.

What was that concertina closed sell mat someone posted before?

That's the latest one, yeah. It's really comfy. Blows away everything else I've tried.

[Nice65]

That's the latest one, yeah. It's really comfy. Blows away everything else I've tried.

I could go with that as it can be protected deep within a pack.

[pippyd]

http://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co...._rucksack.html

Wife has one. I have one too. Did the coast to coast out of one. Really comfy if packed well but you need to be reasonably conservative with what you pack if you're carrying tent etc. if you pack light weight then 47l is a good size though.

[Martyn]

Frederiek, just some maths to make you think....

GoLite Jam, 50L - 850g - 65 Euro
GoLite Shangri-La 3 - 1970g - 162 Euro
Peak Elite 2/3 - 250g - 62 Euro.

Total for (massive) tent, (super-comfy) sleeping pad and (superb) rucksack = 3.1kg, 289 Euro.

[pippyd]

I could go with that as it can be protected deep within a pack.

Used a thermarest for years. No puncture problems. Often on the outside bottom of the pack just in a dry bag which will prevent any snags. For the level of comfort they provide I'd never be without an inflating matt. If I was really worried I'd add the 20g for a puncture kit.

[Nice65]

Frederiek, just some maths to make you think....

GoLite Jam, 50L - 850g - 65 Euro
GoLite Shangri-La 3 - 1970g - 162 Euro
Peak Elite 2/3 - 250g - 62 Euro.

Total for (massive) tent, (super-comfy) sleeping pad and (superb) rucksack = 3.1kg, 289 Euro.

When you put it like that

[heron74]

Vango banshee 300 is a good bet loads of room for 1plenty of room for 2 and under 2.5 kg, hope this helps.

[Martyn]

I could go with that as it can be protected deep within a pack.

I'll do a packsize pic of the neoair and peak elite later. They both pack down to about the size of a pepsi can.