A (3)daypack for everyday use?

[campinghiker]

Just got the Osprey Escapist 30 few days ago, brilliant pack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSb0Gji1Uns

[Average Joe]

Just got the Osprey Escapist 30 few days ago, brilliant pack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSb0Gji1Uns

Well done that looks super, great Advert/review vid. A good looking well though out pack.

20 years ago I would have loved all those features. Now I just see it as cluttered with details that will (as the presenter said) 'probably not get used'.

The one 'selling point' he missed was the one that really counts: Handle on top for shopping bag style carry! & I hate sacks with integral covers: Why not just make it water proof? Because that's expensive. It'll sell better if it's not water proof, (keeping the price down) & packed full of 'handy' stuff,,,,,, like a pocket for your iffyfone.

However; 'tis better to have & not need, than to need & not have'. Especially when thinking of pockets for iffyfones. Do they do it in black?

[benp1]

Why not just make it water proof? Because that's expensive.

Actually, thats not the reason. The only genuinely waterproof pack would be a drybag with straps, which are available. Where would you put your waterproofs when they're wet, inside a waterproof sack? Where would you put other wet kit?

I like non waterproof bags, most are varying shades of water resistant, with a cover on top or small individual dry bags inside, depending on where I am and what I'm doing. Usually cover for quick trips and day walks, dry bags for overnighters or where I'm expecting bag weather

[Average Joe]

Actually, thats not the reason. The only genuinely waterproof pack would be a drybag with straps, which are available. Where would you put your waterproofs when they're wet, inside a waterproof sack? Where would you put other wet kit?

I like non waterproof bags, most are varying shades of water resistant, with a cover on top or small individual dry bags inside, depending on where I am and what I'm doing. Usually cover for quick trips and day walks, dry bags for overnighters or where I'm expecting bag weather

Silly me, I should have seen that one comming. You are right. One should always consider the genuine 'water proof' options & balance that with your requirements of a pack & how likley it is to get a drenching: Ie, tubing down the Shenedoah will probably need a drybag v's cycling in summer in the UK................... Which one could cinically say,,,,,,,,, would probably need a drybag!

Prehaps I should have said, 'waterproofish', 'waterproofer', 'more waterproof', the perenial fave, 'water resistant' or 'water resistant enough that you don't need a cover (Ie; hydrostaticaly rated materials & zips) but more expensive to produce than just adding a cover'.

[benp1]

cycling in summer in the UK................... Which one could cinically say,,,,,,,,, would probably need a drybag!

If its me cycling then that would be pretty useful, I get hot easy!

Prehaps I should have said, 'waterproofish', 'waterproofer', 'more waterproof', the perenial fave, 'water resistant' or 'water resistant enough that you don't need a cover (Ie; hydrostaticaly rated materials & zips) but more expensive to produce than just adding a cover'.

I've been drybagging the contents of my motorcycling rucksack (Kriega R35) in the recent rainy period, so far nothing has actually come through, its just me being conservative. Granted I'm out for typically no more than an hour, I'm actually secretly hoping to get soaked one day just to see how much rain it takes to go through the 'water resistant' outer

[campinghiker]

If its me cycling then that would be pretty useful, I get hot easy!



I've been drybagging the contents of my motorcycling rucksack (Kriega R35) in the recent rainy period, so far nothing has actually come through, its just me being conservative. Granted I'm out for typically no more than an hour, I'm actually secretly hoping to get soaked one day just to see how much rain it takes to go through the 'water resistant' outer

I wore it in the rain past 2 days without the cover (too lazy to stop and get it out), so far my stuff still dry. I thought I would never find use for all the pockets but you'd be surprised how useful they are. The 'phone' pocket is really useful, phone ring, unzip, phone out, in 3 sec.