Prototype Spyderco EDC legal

[Danzo]

Well, I think all any of us can do now is wait for Sal to arrive and talk us through the knife, as there hasn't been anything in a while which has attracted such vehement opinions.

Danzo

[Stew]

Yeah I know. Could see the point if I was in Denmark.

For me in the Uk though, I would want the Spydie hole.

Some people are never happy!

There are loads of Spydie hole options and if this had one it would look a lot different. I'm sure the Danes would like a Spydie hole too but they can't so let's enjoy the fact that Spyderco are helping them out with a design that they're allowed to carry.

[Stew]

No Spydie hole = not a Spyderco.

On a side note, is it just me who hates FRN?!? Spyderco seem to be using it on everything!

Feels like cheap horrible plastic to me, I hate the stuff.

Spyderco have used it for a long time to great success. It's a much cheaper option but still very durable. I removed the handle of a Delica some years back, thinking it would be easy but was actually a real mission.

I actually like FRN more these days. The textures from years ago feel more plasticy. The patterns these days actually make it feel quite comparable to G10. The pattern on this one is the same as the squeak and I like it. If someone had told me it was G10, I wouldn't immediately doubt them.

[Chastiser]

Spydiehole = almost certainly illegal in Denmark.


Therein lies the dilemma.


Danzo

they could always paint it on

[ngraudal]

Spydiehole = almost certainly illegal in Denmark.


Therein lies the dilemma.


Danzo

Not necessarily, it is ilegal to own and carry OHO knives, but, a knife is only OHO if you can actually OHO it, if you go by the letter of the law. But each copper and desk officer has different oppinion of what OHO is, one has to accept the fact that one may need to go to court to be proven innocent. It will also require technical knowledge and a good understanding of the specific law on OHO knives. The definition of OHO doesn't incorporate technical terms like "thumbstud", "hole" or "spring".
I don't mind, but I see this scaring away potential buyers.

[Stew]

I can OHO some SAKs....

[Dr Zoid]

I can OHO some SAKs....

I can OHO a can of spinach

[the laird]

I read Joels comments as you did, but read more into it than perhaps he intended as he did mention that Dremeling the rabbit ears would create a functional Emerson wave. Which it might.

So apologies Joel if I did assume too much.

Danzo

I apologize for any confusion caused by my comments, but I'm looking at the knife from the point of view that it has input from two great makers and a great company, but its directed at a market where the laws are tight,so it has to be just right or else it will be well it will be just wrong.

and the laws here are pretty painful when it comes to knife ownership

[sal]

Hi guys, I think

Really appreciate all of the comments, especially in such a short period of time (I've been traveling for the past 3 days). The BB group is certainly prolific, and not shy.

On the humps - Vox/Anso said it was a traditional marking for a Danish design. They had a name for it which I will dig up when I get to the office. We specifically made them so they could not be used to Em Op the model. Circumventing laws is not our purpose or business model.

On the FRN - This was a price issue. Normally we like to make a new model with slab construction to test the design before tooling up in FRN. We have also seen situations where the slab models ended up so expensive that too few could afford to purchase for us to get good feedback on the pattern / design. We wanted a European maker and European steel, which also jacks the price up. We worked with the maker to cut tooling costs so we could get the model to the general Danish market at a more affordable price.

If the design is acceptable, variations and modifications are certainly possible. Knife afi's like modern G-10 / Titanium or traditional stag / wood, but there also have to be a number of Danes that just want to carry a pocket knife that's legal and has more muscle and a "better" steel than the traditional SAK.

If the design is not acceptable, then I will go back to the drawing board and use the customer approach that Laird mentioned. This is not our first attempt to create a Danish knife. I am persistent. However, The approach we are using (Vox/Anso design) is also logical.

The high hollow grind, we all felt would provide good cutting geometry while retaining lateral strength.

We are trying to create a purpose design Danish legal knife that is high quality, high function and affordable for EDC. The alternative is to create nothing.

The good Lord and the IRS both know this project is not on which to get rich.

sal

[Noddy]

I like it

Reminds me a bit of my first knife ... only w/o the marlin

[Danzo]

Thanks Sal

The "enthusiastic discussion" of how the knife will be perceived in Denmark aside, I do think this is going to be a success just as a knife. It's a great design which is very recognisable for the minds behind it. I think it will be popular here too, but have you any thoughts for a version with a full size Spydie hole for the UK market?

Danzo

[sal]

Hi Danzo,

I hadn't until it was brought up here. Not all designs lend themselves to a Spyderco hole opener. We usually begin a design with the pivot and hole. It would be possible, assuming the function is there, to do a run with a different blade shape. First the Danes.

sal

[Danzo]

Hi Danzo,

I hadn't until it was brought up here. Not all designs lend themselves to a Spyderco hole opener. We usually begin a design with the pivot and hole. It would be possible, assuming the function is there, to do a run with a different blade shape. First the Danes.

sal

Thank you.


Danzo

[Toast]

I really like it, albeit I'd probably shave the bunny ears off too... Not worried about the lack of choil, the blade shape doesn't look like it would lend itself to the sort of work that applies that kind of force. A slicer, not a poker.

[BladeScout]

I certainly hope the outcome will be an acceptable Spyderco for the Danish market.
If not in this configuration then another.

Thanks Sal

The "enthusiastic discussion" of how the knife will be perceived in Denmark aside, I do think this is going to be a success just as a knife. It's a great design which is very recognisable for the minds behind it. I think it will be popular here too, but have you any thoughts for a version with a full size Spydie hole for the UK market?

Danzo

'Enthusiastic' is right! I must admit, that I was rather surprised to see such vehement opinions, as you said in an earlier post.
The most 'enthusiastic' (or rather vehement) from two members living in Denmark no less.