Sword ban in Scotland, etc.

[Tantalus]

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/Rele...06/08/14094639

To be announced by the Justice Minister on Monday

Not really worth commenting on as it seems a very "done deal"

Tant

[Mr_Yarrow]

I think its worth commenting that its an ill-thought out idea, but thats it, less the parrot abuse starts!

Rgds

[Tantalus]

I think its worth commenting that its an ill-thought out idea, but thats it, less the parrot abuse starts!

Rgds

I have to agree have a rep point mate

Tant

[soup_monger]

Sigh.... that report contains some of the most stupid quotes I have ever seen.

[mirage]

"...a consultation on the plan saw a majority against a ban on sales of swords.

After considering the responses, Ministers have decided to ban selling swords."

Says it all, really.

"Everything not compulsory is forbidden."

mirage

[Mr_Yarrow]

Ok, I know I said id say no more, but who really believes that if they know me , so;

Anyone else looking forward to seeing the guidelines used to define a 'non-domestic use knife'?

[Zeubest]

Next week, screwdrivers will be forbidden...

Then, I suppose , a special law to precise the maximum length of nails will be examined, including a special licence to carry and/or use nail clippers (sold by licensed retailers, for a legitimate purpose ).

[mirage]

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

mirage

[Mr_Yarrow]

Parrot alert!

[Danzo]

Danzo

[Tantalus]

Tant

[mirage]

mirage

[soa]

Ok, I know I said id say no more, but who really believes that if they know me , so;

Anyone else looking forward to seeing the guidelines used to define a 'non-domestic use knife'?

Well
since the BBC continues to publish tripe
I don't know what to say.

Ross, baggie and mirage know that "a "get tough" policy with those found to be carrying knives. Offenders will be held in custody until they come to court and prosecutors will attempt to get maximum sentences" is nonsense.

If you have a good reason, you won't be held in custody. Nor if you are in possession of a folding pocket knife if the cutting edge of its blade does not exceed three inches (Criminal Law (Consolidation) (Scotland) Act 1995, Section 49, paragraph 3).

If it's deemed to be a weapon, the officer I'd guess must have a reason that he, the desk sergeant and the CPS think to be good. So what were you doing that would convince all three of them? I doubt having it in your pocket would be good enough.

Edited to add, yes, I know,

[Mr_Yarrow]

Well
since the BBC continues to publish tripe
I don't know what to say.

Ross, baggie and mirage know that "a "get tough" policy with those found to be carrying knives. Offenders will be held in custody until they come to court and prosecutors will attempt to get maximum sentences" is nonsense.

If you have a good reason, you won't be held in custody. Nor if you are in possession of a folding pocket knife if the cutting edge of its blade does not exceed three inches (Criminal Law (Consolidation) (Scotland) Act 1995, Section 49, paragraph 3).

If it's deemed to be a weapon, the officer I'd guess must have a reason that he, the desk sergeant and the CPS think to be good. So what were you doing that would convince all three of them? I doubt having it in your pocket would be good enough.

Ahem...this is sooooo not what this thread is about. Sorry to seem harsh, but, this is about banning sword and non-domestic knife SALES from non authorised outlets.

It will have no implication on carry laws.

Rgds

[soa]

Ahem...this is sooooo not what this thread is about. Sorry to seem harsh, but, this is about banning sword and non-domestic knife SALES from non authorised outlets.

It will have no implication on carry laws.

Exactly. And people can still carry knives. Despite what the BBC and this badly worded artile say. And to counter your non-relevance, I quote from the site Tantalus has linked to:

"...Detective Chief Superintendent John Carnochan, head of the Violence Reduction Unit, said: The introduction of a licensing scheme for non-domestic knives and swords is another major step forward in the fight against knife crime and violence...

In November 2004 the First Minister announced a five-point plan on tackling knife crime, including proposals for a licensing scheme for the sale of non-domestic knives and a ban on sword sales.

The three other parts of the plan - doubling the maximum penalty for carrying a knife in public or in a school from two to four years, removing restrictions on police powers of arrest where someone is carrying a knife or offensive weapon in public, and increasing the minimum purchase age for non-domestic knives from 16 to 18 - were implemented through the Police, Public Order and Criminal Justice (Scotland) Act, and come into force in September."