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    Floral damascus pattern

    Any ideas as to how this pattern is made, see this thread on Don Fogg's site.
    If you will a good edge win,
    temper thick and then grind thin.

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    Re: Floral damascus pattern

    Quote Originally Posted by imagedude View Post
    Any ideas as to how this pattern is made, see this thread on Don Fogg's site.
    Is this 'Art' damascus?
    I have the book 'Encyclopedia of Knives' in which there is a maker (can't remember who) who makes a little folder with little raindeer' on the blade, with a stone/crystal handle. Its always puzzled me.

    Imagedude, if you dont have the book, i dont mind loaning it to you.

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    Re: Floral damascus pattern

    at a guess I recon its wire eroded or watercut inlays that arewelded in under a press using lateral compression restrictive dies .
    they arent just layed on top as there would be more distortion to the underlying ladder and you can see depth to the petals at the plunge line .
    kind of like a posh version of your rivetging damascus Bob.


    At a guess.

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    Re: Floral damascus pattern

    Quote Originally Posted by owen bush View Post
    at a guess I recon its wire eroded or watercut inlays that arewelded in under a press using lateral compression restrictive dies .
    they arent just layed on top as there would be more distortion to the underlying ladder and you can see depth to the petals at the plunge line .
    kind of like a posh version of your rivetging damascus Bob.


    At a guess.
    Wire damascus rings a bell with the one im thinking about.
    I will try to get a pic and more info tomorrow on the pics in the book i have.

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    Re: Floral damascus pattern

    the one you are talking about is pierre reverdie santaclaus knife .

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    Re: Floral damascus pattern

    I saw this knife a while back, excellent work. As Owen says there is no distortion to the pattern around the flower elements, so the flowers have been welded into windows cut into the blade steel. I have read somewhere that the pattern is the same on the other side, which would confirm this idea. On Michael Millers site he says that he only uses, common hand tools found in any blade / blacksmiths shop.
    Have a look at this http://www.mmilleroriginals.com/page67.html for a few more similar knives. Its nice to see someone doing this type of work with only hand tools. The santa claus and reindeer type patterns by Pierre Reverdy are done with the use of an EDM machine which allows you to cut a very complex hole in one block of steel and an exactly fitting plug out of another type of steel.

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    Re: Floral damascus pattern

    then how does it fuse together.....
    heat like mad ansquash under pressure.....
    would that create a "safe" weld..........
    i know nowt, but i wouldn't have expected that to be secure..........
    still its fekin gorgeous..........
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    Re: Floral damascus pattern

    According to the author, it's an inlay, forgewelded into place after using carbide bits etc.

    My first guess would have been resist masked and etched. He chose to do it the hard way.
    Once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if you look at it right...

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    Re: Floral damascus pattern

    i have a theory before the blade is etched the guy puts some car decals on it in the shape of the flower.
    the acid doesnt eat the steel under the graphics only the graphics.
    thus the steel still has the mirror grind he put on it.

    here's a link to a guy who does that for his initials. http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/docs/tutorial13.htm
    -jared Z

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    Re: Floral damascus pattern

    Quote Originally Posted by owen bush View Post
    the one you are talking about is pierre reverdie santaclaus knife .
    Spot on.

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    Re: Floral damascus pattern

    it is truley beautiful work, I like a bit of mystery in how its done. EDM etc removes some of the 'romance' of forging it proper, but the skill levels involved in making something like this are huge, however its done..

    Stunning.. my hat off to the chap.

    (my only problem with it is when I look into the depths of my knowledge all I can see is the vista of my ignorance stretched out before me.... )

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    Re: Floral damascus pattern

    The maker himself answers this question in the same thread later down the page.

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    Re: Floral damascus pattern

    Quote Originally Posted by lilzee View Post
    i have a theory before the blade is etched the guy puts some car decals on it in the shape of the flower.
    the acid doesnt eat the steel under the graphics only the graphics.
    thus the steel still has the mirror grind he put on it.

    here's a link to a guy who does that for his initials. http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/docs/tutorial13.htm
    that's ariel salaverria (for anyone that doesn't know) an argentine knife maker of extraordinary talent, he uses a hydraulic press to make mascus, wire mascus, chainsaw mascus, mokume and micarta...

    anyone wishing to expand their knowledge of knifemaking should nip over to the forums of ramanon and do a search for his tutorials and his posts showing the stuff he produces


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    Re: Floral damascus pattern

    indeed i drool over his work
    -jared Z

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