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    Question Lumens vs Candlepower ?

    I keep seeing posts here about torches I have no experience or knowledge of, things like Fenix and the like. The output of these things is always stated in Lumens which, to be honest, means diddly squat to me

    When it comes to torches I'm pretty much a dyed-in-the-wool "You can't beat a damned good Maglite" sort of bloke.
    Now, I know that a 4 D-cell Maglite produces about 23,000 candlepower if it's got good fresh batteries in it, and that the 3 D-cell is only slightly less at 22,000 candlepower.

    Working as I do, on night shifts in Security, I often have the need for a decent torch, and 3 0r 4 D-cell Maglites do have their place as a 'sit down and shut up' torch , but this facility isn't always needed. I see the need for a decent, small torch that I can keep on my belt for those times when I want maximum illumination but don't neccesarily want to lug around a big Maglite.

    I'd probably have already bought myself one of the new fangled 'posh' little torches, but I have no idea how bright they actually are when compared to my trusty old Maglite.

    Help ?
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    Re: Lumens vs Candlepower ?

    I don't have a handy maglite to take comparison photos, but believe me, a good LED torch whill kick the maglige around the place!

    I'll see if I can find one of Doc's comparison videos...

    Here you go... Doc from glowgadgets comparing the maglite to several other torches including the Fenix TK-10, Surefire etc..

    [Flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/IAVr3J8SE9U[/flash]

    Maglite demo is at 3:48

    Then he jumps on to other torches.

    Even the little Fenix L0D (one AAA battery) whips the maglite's rear.

    I do however have a modified maglite. Whacks out about 500 lumens on fresh eneloop batteries
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    Re: Lumens vs Candlepower ?

    Here's a useful page about maglites and their lumen output.

    LED torches are available upto about 1000luens, but bear in mind their light is a bit "whiter" than the yellowy - more natural seeming incandescent light from a maglite.

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    Re: Lumens vs Candlepower ?

    This will give you an idea of what 1000 lumens looks like compared to 2D and 3D mags


    Picture credit Dreamscape (CPF), my ROP, his mag85 and normal mags.
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    Re: Lumens vs Candlepower ?

    Wow, Thanks guys Now I SEE...

    I'm pretty sure I know what I want to spend my pennies on now. Fenix P3D Premium Q5. The P2 is probably too small for me to handle sensibly with my hams, and I like the idea of having the extra shiny-ness of the P3 anyway

    You know what the next qusetion is, don't you ?

    Who, where, how much (more importantly, how little), how quick?
    If it's not sharp, it's just a piece of metal.

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    Re: Lumens vs Candlepower ?

    For all your Fenix requirements you couldn't do worse than Rob at The Photon Shop he supplied some Fenixes for a passaround I ran here a while back. Usually next working day delivery, mention British Blades

    http://thephotonshop.co.uk/

    All my Maglites are now redundant, even the one I upgraded to LED

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    Re: Lumens vs Candlepower ?

    I got my Fenix P3D Q5 from Doc at www.glowgadgets.co.uk

    He's currently doing an offer where you get the P3D Q5, batteries, the Fenix torch diffuser AND a bicycle mount for the torch for 39.95

    http://www.glowgadgets.co.uk/fenix-p...=fenix-torches

    It's a cracking torch, and I love mine to bits

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    Re: Lumens vs Candlepower ?

    LED technology has moved so far now, it's left MAG's in the last century.

    These pics are shamelessly stolen from ZDP's Ultrafire WF-1000 group buy thread...




    Torches on the floor pointing at the ceiling...




    The ultrafire WF-1000 is a 1000 lumen rechargeable torch of about MAG 2C size.

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    Re: Lumens vs Candlepower ?

    DAMN. I am SO guttted I missed that group buy. (at least I assume I missed it. I followed the link in your post Martyn and the forum tells me I cannot see that thread???)

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    Re: Lumens vs Candlepower ?

    Quote Originally Posted by TallNHairyDave View Post
    DAMN. I am SO guttted I missed that group buy. (at least I assume I missed it. I followed the link in your post Martyn and the forum tells me I cannot see that thread???)

    Dave
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    Re: Lumens vs Candlepower ?

    ah. How does one subscribe????

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    Re: Lumens vs Candlepower ?

    See above.
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    Re: Lumens vs Candlepower ?

    And/Or below
    It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
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    Re: Lumens vs Candlepower ?

    Quote Originally Posted by pippyd View Post
    And/Or below
    And make sure you use the right (correct) one!

    which happens to be the one on the left
    oops! i think i just bought another one !

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    Re: Lumens vs Candlepower ?

    there's a lot of choice in torches now. As Martyn says the old Maglight technology is pretty much a thing of the past now. there's a whole range to choose from depending on what you want. A fairly cheap LED torch runniing on standard alkaline betteries will be a good workhorse for general use for not walking into things in the dark and a (still fairly cheap) model running on lithium batteries will give you a bit more poke for seeing 'over there'; then there's the higher end 'tactical' lights which can give spectacular illumination if that's what you need.

    Usually you'll be choosing a best compromise between illumination and runtime, although higher end models will give extra features like variable brightness, more efficient use of batteries, waterproofing and general build quality.

 

 

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