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    "Spey" blade

    Plenty of examples in the various folder threads, but could someone tell me some history of the Spey blade shape, please.

    It seems to be designed for a specific purpose, but, me being NOTSHARP, I do not see it.


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    Re: "Spey" blade

    It's for speying. That is the same as what happens to your dog when he gets too vigorous

    It's usual on the stockman style of knives and would have been used for castration of bullocks, out on the range.
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    Re: "Spey" blade

    Spelt "spay" I think rather than as the famous river and whisky producing region.
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    Re: "Spey" blade

    No, it's spey.

    Not like the river or region but like to spey an animal.
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    Re: "Spey" blade

    One more try:
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    Neutering (AKA Spaying, Castration)

    Neutering is the general term used for the surgical removal of the reproductive organs in both male and female dogs.

    Castration is the removal of the testicles of the male dog.

    Spaying is the removal of the ovaries and uterus of the female dog.
    Googling on both spellings, ie spey blade and spay blade turns up plenty of examples related to the Stockman knife. I presume vets won't use them to remove ovaries and uterus though.
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    Re: "Spey" blade

    Quote Originally Posted by Ropeman View Post
    No, it's spey.

    Not like the river or region but like to spey an animal.
    As Ropey says it's "spey". Interestingly, whilst googling for a description to stick in the thread I discover that Wiki has it misspelled as spay/spaying. Is this because there is a different US version?
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    Re: "Spey" blade

    This is Bernard Levine's explanation of the difference:
    Male animals: spey.

    Female animals: spay.

    You won't find spey or most other cutlery terms in dictionaries, not even "unabridged," not even unatunneled.

    In stock raising, dairy farming, etc., only males are neutered. Spey.

    In pet raising, mainly females are neutered -- hence the more common use of spay. These days, way more folks keep pets than raise livestock, or live storks, either.

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    Here are 2 real spey blades for example. The Schrade Walden stockman was carried by my dad during the period 1946-1952, when he ran a cattle ranch in west Texas with several hundred head of cattle. The blade shows all that remained after constant honing during the annual branding, dipping and castration of calves. The Case stockman has the rather gruesome phrase "For Flesh Only" etched on the blade.

    I have seen knives by British makers such as Joseph Rodgers, Stan Shaw and Trevor Ablett which avoided the spelling problem by use of the more accurate term "castrator blade".

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    Re: "Spey" blade

    Thanks for the input.

    Never having castrated(or "speyed") anything I assume that the clipped spey blade may have derived from the Fleam, not needing a sharp point to make the controlled cut.

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    Re: "Spey" blade

    i was always told that the spey blade shape was to avoid damaging the surrounding flesh when castrating the animal. a kind of over exaggerated drop point.

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    Re: "Spey" blade

    ... but terrific for peeling apples, esp given the angle at which it is conventionally set

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    Re: "Spey" blade

    spay is US

    spey is UK English

    The blade is very useful, as Noddy says, mainly because of the angle at which is is set.

    I have seen a training video of a vet castrating a feral dog in Australia with a spey blade on a Joseph Rodgers stockman's knife.

    the blade is used to open the scrotum, then the wotsits are popped out and the wound is stitched, it took about 60 seconds.

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    Re: "Spey" blade

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    Re: "Spey" blade

    this thread is the dogs'









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    Re: "Spey" blade

    Quote Originally Posted by Hector View Post
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    Re: "Spey" blade

    I just couldn't do that. I could just about bring myself to slaughter or brand, but the castration bit. My danglies hurt just thinking of it.

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