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    How bad are AUS6, 440A really? (Z60CDV14)

    I'm looking at a knife with a blade of Z60CDV14. A quick google tells me that Bladeforums think it has similar properties to AUS6 and 440A. The only steels I have knives in are AUS 8, S30V and whatever Victorinox uses. How is the Z60CDV14 likely to behave compared to these?

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    Re: How bad are AUS6, 440A really? (Z60CDV14)

    It entirely depends on heattreatment, but i would expect it to be "ok"

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    Re: How bad are AUS6, 440A really? (Z60CDV14)

    iirc the Spyderco pride is AUS6 so it should be better than ok.

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    Re: How bad are AUS6, 440A really? (Z60CDV14)

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    They have all the steel info you will need.

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    Re: How bad are AUS6, 440A really? (Z60CDV14)

    AUS6 is OK, if you ever see those super cheap tat knives that are ladled 440 stainless, then it is probably 440a, not good.

    the fact is you can buy a good knife in a high grade steel for relatively cheap. don't shell out for a low end steel and expect it to perform.

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    Re: How bad are AUS6, 440A really? (Z60CDV14)

    Quote Originally Posted by Stover Rover View Post
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    Aus-6 is a perfectly good steel, not an edge holding demon steel but it'll cut what you need it to cut (as long as it's not cutting concrete blocks in half )
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    Re: How bad are AUS6, 440A really? (Z60CDV14)

    I've had a couple of Spydercos in Aus6 and they've been fine.

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    Re: How bad are AUS6, 440A really? (Z60CDV14)

    I have a CRKT in AUS6 - it lives in my work trousers and has a hard life opening sacks of salt (for water softeners). It keeps sufficient edge for the job, and doesn't rust provided I wipe it down after use.
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    Re: How bad are AUS6, 440A really? (Z60CDV14)

    Thanks for the replys, I was really just checking it wasn't crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor Kiam View Post
    Seeing the blade slowly (very slowly!) transform into its new state was like watching an artist paint a picture and slowly seeing it take form, until eventually the content can be discerned.

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    Re: How bad are AUS6, 440A really? (Z60CDV14)

    As stated before,,, it all depends on a good heat treatment,,,

    BTW, there was a time most knives were made of 440 steel

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    Re: How bad are AUS6, 440A really? (Z60CDV14)

    i had a crkt fixed blade in aus6 which was totally inadequate for a blade steel, really really soft. useless

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    Re: How bad are AUS6, 440A really? (Z60CDV14)

    I recently purchased a length of 440c for a kitchen knife and did a little research on it..

    here is what I found on the 440 steels:
    Please note that 440A and 440B are similar alloys, often confused with 440C, but not worth a damn for knife making use. Commercial knife companies often mark blades 440 when they're one of the less desirable versions, giving the real stuff a bad name.
    440c is the tenth steel down the list on this website: http://www.knives.com/engnath_steel.html

    I am shipping my knife off to be hardened tomorrow so I can't tell you my own results using the steel yet, but I have production knives with 440 stainless steel blades and I'd say they perform fairly well..

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    Re: How bad are AUS6, 440A really? (Z60CDV14)

    OK, this thread is presumably solid proof that everyone saying "HEAT TREAT", is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor Kiam View Post
    Seeing the blade slowly (very slowly!) transform into its new state was like watching an artist paint a picture and slowly seeing it take form, until eventually the content can be discerned.

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    Re: How bad are AUS6, 440A really? (Z60CDV14)

    Yes, you can get good AUS6 blades with the right heat treat but I would not consider it in an expensive knife.

    out of interest what sort of price and length are we talking.

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    Re: How bad are AUS6, 440A really? (Z60CDV14)

    I've got a SOG in AUS 6, holds a reasonable edge, very easy to resharpen, very rust resistant.
    I've had knives much less user friendly, and for it's use, quite like the steel, a quick touch up to re edge-great.
    A G Russell's comments that he quite rates some of the SOG 440A/AUS 6 etc, but doesn't know who does the heat treat, which I understand is the key.
    I also understand that the best heat treat on this steel won't make it perform like more complex/pricier steels, but it seems to cut things just fine !

    Hope that's a worthwhile contribution from a newbie !

 

 

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